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I agree with both points of view. There is something amazing and valuable in human handwork that can't be duplicated by machines. At the same time I marvel at, and enjoy Jim's creative use of technology which is a form of art in itself. Really, I think this opens up new doors for some of us to get involved in a higher level of handwork that we might not have attempted otherwise. For myself, after completing a couple of Mr. Kibler's kits, I have been thinking of doing a build with most of the machine made metal parts, fabricating a few of the simpler ones. Then doing the stock starting with a slab of wood. After looking at the pictures of Jim's CNC incised carving, I believe it would be possible to make it a blend of relief and incised carving by judiciously removing a bit of wood at some of the borders. This would provide some of the unique qualities of carving done solely by hand.

I have a SMR kit that I'm preparing to convert to percussion. I would have never considered that kind of project if it hadn't been for building a couple of these kits.
 
Kibler has introduced another incredible innovation. I'm sure someone criticized indoor plumbing when it was introduced too.
We have to remember that these are modern guns based on old designs. They are modern luxuries, not necessities of the 18th century. Purests may demur and pay an artisan to carve their exact replica, if they can find such a person and have deep pockets. But even artisanal carved flintlocks are modern guns. Very few were made back in the day.
 
Elfirgnol said:
I agree with both points of view. There is something amazing and valuable in human handwork that can't be duplicated by machines. At the same time I marvel at, and enjoy Jim's creative use of technology which is a form of art in itself. Really, I think this opens up new doors for some of us to get involved in a higher level of handwork that we might not have attempted otherwise. For myself, after completing a couple of Mr. Kibler's kits, I have been thinking of doing a build with most of the machine made metal parts, fabricating a few of the simpler ones. Then doing the stock starting with a slab of wood. After looking at the pictures of Jim's CNC incised carving, I believe it would be possible to make it a blend of relief and incised carving by judiciously removing a bit of wood at some of the borders. This would provide some of the unique qualities of carving done solely by hand.

I have a SMR kit that I'm preparing to convert to percussion. I would have never considered that kind of project if it hadn't been for building a couple of these kits.
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With some care this could be made into fantastic relief carving. Just as you've mentioned. Not for someone without some skill, though.
 
What I see is the result of an artist's original designs applied to a modern "tool" for execution in limited numbers. This isn't a thousand "collectible" item presentation as we see in full-page magazine ads. Each Kibler Kit or finished piece is, in my view, an individually created heirloom - not a cheesy gold-plated "Battle of Whatever" POC. Should a man choose to have a bit of such artwork applied, that's a fine thing to offer customers.

I'd call it the "Kibler Custom Shop" and see what happens. Looks fine to me.
 
as i have said before, i cannot create, but i can copy the heck out of anything. my first thought seeing JK's new offering was that i could embellish the cnc carving with a few gouge marks to make it look totally hand done. my second thought was that it is exquisite just as it is.
this will be my first Kibler kit, and possibly the last build for me. can't think of a better crown for my collection.
 
ADK Bigfoot said:
This new offering increases the already severe pain I feel every time I see a Kibler....because I want one desperately but am chronically left handed.
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I too shoot left handed but all of my firearms are designed and built for those that shoot right handed. When I learned to shoot, all my dad had was right handed firearms and that is what I shot. As I got older, I never thought to look for a left-handed gun. At this age I don't know if I could make the switch to a left-handed gun.
 
Same, my dad MADE me shoot right handed and could not shoot. I am right handed but left prodominate eyed. I know he was dissapointed but just said "some people cant shoot some cant dance" etc. Later when I got my first (smuggled and hidden) bb gun I self taught myself to shoot. Next time we went shooting I grabbed a 30-30 and started blowing cans around and he was dumbfounded. I was shooting left handd before he could stp me. ALL RIGHT HANDED GUNS. I owned left handed muzzleloader, guz I shoot that way, but could not stand it, I load and clean and carry right handed. If yer left handed get a cheapie rigt handed one and try it. You may have no problem, just keep loading etc. left handed.
 
ADK Bigfoot said:
This new offering increases the already severe pain I feel every time I see a Kibler....because I want one desperately but am chronically left handed.

Very nice, indeed.

ADK Bigfoot
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Fortunately, I 'learned' to use all types guns as a kid, playing, even though I'm also a lefty. As long as I have shooting glasses on, holding a flintlock on my left side doesn't bother me, and I can work a bolt-action rapidly the same way. It would be too much to ask Mr. Kibler to do lefties, but I'm sure he's thought of it! Maybe as super-custom order, but that would be prohibitive cost-wise.
 
ADK Bigfoot said:
This new offering increases the already severe pain I feel every time I see a Kibler....because I want one desperately but am chronically left handed.

Very nice, indeed.

ADK Bigfoot
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I am a south paw also, my 2 other rock sparkers are RH. I have found no problem shooting RH flintlocks. I actually think it helps me, my right eye is closed i see no shower of sparks to induce a flinch. I am saving my samolians up for a Woods Runner kit. I am sure i will get a .50 cal
 
When I was about 9, we moved to the county and had a 5 acre pond. My dad bought my brother and I spinning rods/reels for Christmas that year. Western Auto was having a sale! We later found out that a Garcia/Mitchell 301 was the left handed model. We're both right handed.

I've been fishing left handed my whole life.

I've also shot many a deer left handed when they came out on my right when I was sitting in a tree...

I'm amphibious.


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