Kodiak Express Double Rifle

[JayDee Flohr]

Just about every Double Rifle has a rear "EXPRESS SIGHT". EXPRESS SIGHTS have two or more blades but that is NOT to regulate the barrels to different aim points; that is for changing RANGES, ie distance. It is not a regulation aid at all. As you all know, bullets drop over distance, that is the reason for different heights in the blades of an EXPRESS SIGHT.

Well then, that blows your guns same point of impact at 75 yards right out of the water. If a gun is say, regulated to 75 yards then no matter where you change your "Express sights to, for distance, the gun will either shoot left or right. Admitidly, not much but some. The Kodiaks can be set up to shoot that way if one wishes. As I said earlier, mine is regulated to 75 yards. I could set it up with the rear leaf at 75 yards and use the front for 100 but at 100 the right barrel is going to hit left and vise versa. By using one sight for each barrel gives a bit better accuracy and versatility for me.
Just because the gun doesn't cost whatever your double did doesn't mean it isn't regulated.

 

[RossN]

If your bores start out at say 1" apart on the centres, and cross at 75 yards, then at 100 yards the seperation of the projectiles is going to be 1/3". (1" at the muzzle, .66" at 25 yards, .33" at 50 yards, 0" at 75, 1.33 at 100 and so on till at 150 they will be 1" apart, but on the opposite side of the target to where they started.)
If you can spot that in the group size then you are doing fairly well, I think.

The normal issues to do with shot dispersion for each barrel will become more important to a combined group size, ASSUMING that the barrels are, in fact, regulated to 75 yards.

Regards

Ross

 

[JayDee Flohr]

Thanks for taking the time for the figures :thumbsup: I never was good at math.
I guess the main point is we all set up and shoot things a bit different and we enjoy doing it. To the original question, they are a good quality gun that will give years of service.
Take care.

 

[poordevil]

I know the differance between one rear sight with 2 or more leaves for elevation. The Kodiak appears to have 2 rear sights. One for each bbl. I remember reading that was a way to avoid the extream cost of regulating the bbls in the traditional manner. One looks down the sight on the right bbl to aim the right and down the left for that one.

 

[David W.]

Thanks for taking the time for the figures :thumbsup: I never was good at math.
I guess the main point is we all set up and shoot things a bit different and we enjoy doing it. To the original question, they are a good quality gun that will give years of service.
Take care.

The answer to that is yes.

 

[henbrook]

The Kodiak appears to have 2 rear sights. One for each bbl. I remember reading that was a way to avoid the extream cost of regulating the bbls in the traditional manner. One looks down the sight on the right bbl to aim the right and down the left for that one.

Actually,both rear sights are flip-ups and centered between the two barrels and you adjust each sight to whichever barrel you choose,say rear for right for example and forward sight for left.R for R would probly be a simple manner to remember which is which when that 1000lb. brownie steps into view?So while the barrels themselves may not actually be "regulated" in the expensive dbl rifle sense of the word,you can adjust or "regulate" both sights so that both barrels have the same POI at any given range,or adjust one sight and corresponding barrel for short range(50 yards?) and the other combo for farther(100yds?).

 

[David W.]

The Kodiak appears to have 2 rear sights. One for each bbl. I remember reading that was a way to avoid the extream cost of regulating the bbls in the traditional manner. One looks down the sight on the right bbl to aim the right and down the left for that one.

Actually,both rear sights are flip-ups and centered between the two barrels and you adjust each sight to whichever barrel you choose,say rear for right for example and forward sight for left.R for R would probly be a simple manner to remember which is which when that 1000lb. brownie steps into view.So while the barrels themselves may not actually be "regulated" in the expensive dbl rifle sense,you can adjust both sights so that both barrels have the same POI at any given range,or adjust one for short range and one for farther.

It seems like they have comlicated matters and I am glad I have the old style which also has two rear sights adjustable for both windage and elevation. The sight for the right barrel is canted to the right and the left sight, to the left. That makes it very easy to know which sight is which. IMO.

 

[henbrook]

I dunno 62?Like I said previously,I've never actually handled a Kodiak,only read up on them with keen interest/on my wishlist as a nice moose thumper.:hatsoff:The pics are from a 4sale add on another website,year of production unknown but the seller has owned it for 20+ years?Asking $900CDN btw.Pedersoli Canada lists them new for $1260 I beleive?

 

[Tomm]

I have one in .72cal. I see that all the ones I sean hear have on pistol grip Mine dose's Is it a differant mod. Or just newer made? by the way it's very well made. Tom

 

[doublesnider]

Im very happy with my hand made one leaf sight. :grin:

This is it before finishing it.

Martin

 

[David W.]

Im very happy with my hand made one leaf sight. :grin:

This is it before finishing it.

Martin

Great! How does it pattern? I wish I could do that on my rifle, but it just will not work for me, I still need two rear sights. :thumbsup:

 

[Zoar]

Fossil-- It is not just a matter of cost, although yes that certainly has bearing, if a double gun is "regulated" it has full details of the load it was regulated to and the distance either stamped on it or with a written certification.

I'm not trying to be stinky here. Just that a regulated double rifle is a specific term and it carries with it definite standards / requirements. That's all. And EXPRESS SIGHTS are the type of sight used on double rifles even though the barrels are regulated to one distance. The fact that most express sites have more than one blade does NOT change the fact the two barrels get regulated to a certain distance with a certain load. :grin: :thumbsup:

 

[Marc Adamchek]

Oh man, I've been taken in by my impetuous nature! Just looking at the Pedersoli site and it all came together, like a diamond bullet hitting my forehead, or whatever Marlon Brando said in Aplocalypse Now. The reason Cabelas doesn't advertise the Kodiak anymore is , yes, they only have a few left in their warehouses, but that's because they're waiting for the NEW improved models, or if they will even be able to get any of the new ones at an agreeable contract price. The Kodiak Express I just bought is HEAVY, he ain't my brother. Also, the stock has a Prince of Wales grip (a rounded version of a "pistol" grip). The Kodiaks on the Pesersoli site all have straight grips, what are called "English Grips" on double shotguns. Think Winchester 30-30 and you'll get the profile picture, sans lever, of course. The new .72 Version is called the KODIAK EXPRESS SAFARI EXPRESS STANDARD and weighs in at a mere 10.34 lbs. So all this double-talk (Hey! I like that pun) we've been having about regulating barrels, one sight per barrel, 75 yards magic number, express sights etc etc etc as nauseum has just been old fogey (sp?) chatter through dentures and missing teeth. We be left be-hind, boy-eee! Do I care? ehh, maybe a little, but not really. I figure in the process of shooting the hell out of this rifle my arm muscles will start ripping through my shirts and my off-hand shooting with all my other BP rifles will become rock-solid. And I DO intend to shoot this gun a lot and learn a lot in the process. Shooting and learning are two very worthwhile things a man can do with his time, so there are NO complaints coming from this child (Mike Nesbitt shout-out). Carry on, men. I'll meet you in Africa.