Laws on Buying Lead Balls?

[luieb45]

The other day I was at the farmstore and I was going to return my cva balls that I had a bad experience with and exchange for some others. I tried to return them but the cashier said they do not accept returns on ammunition. All I tried to return was a pack of roundballs, nothing else. So then I said I'll just buy the other balls and just not return the cva balls. I am only 15 and she said I have to be 18 and have a valid FOID card to buy "ammunition" which she considered roundballs as ammunition. I have bought balls at other stores and had no problems just a problem with these. Is there a law that prevents people from buying roundballs if you have no FOID card and am under 15? Thanks

 

[ozark57]

Roundballs are not ammo. She does not know what is doing.

 

[DBox]

No such law in Mississippi. If you don't think there is one there, check other stores. This feed store may just not know the law.

 

[jethro224]

I do not believe roundballs are classified as ammunition by law. They may be by store policy.

I bought some at a Gander Mountain one time and they checked my FOID card. When I asked why, the cashier told me it was store policy, as she sipped her bottled water and scanned my roundballs. "Roundballs are bullets. You shoot them out of a gun don't you?" she asked.
As I pulled out of the lot with my 2 boxes of .490 balls, I looked at my credit card receipt, for $2. and change ???!!!! It was for 2 bottles of water. :haha:

 

[paulvallandigham]

When it comes to BP ammo components, you are usually dealing with idiots in these stores. You were the victim of your age, and someone who decided to simply give you a hard time. Sorry it happened. :v

 

[mykeal]

You are in Illinois, one of the most backward states in the union with regard to firearms and ammunition. The very existence of an FOID card should be enough to confirm that thesis.

It would be very easy for me to believe IL has such a law. Michigan prohibits sales of handgun ammo to persons younger than 21, and rifle ammo to persons younger than 18, and it is much more reasonable in it's firearms and ammo laws than IL. (Notice that I did NOT say that restricting the sale of ammunition to old folks only was a reasonable thing to do, only that in all OTHER areas regarding firearms, MI was more reasonable than IL.)

Now, as to whether or not round balls are ammo in IL - tell her you want to use them as fishing weights as the weights they sell are all the wrong size (you're fishing for catfish and need lots of weight).

 

[luieb45]

Actually I bought these in Iowa. I had no problems when I bought them in Illinois. I think it was the cashier though because she seemed to have no idea what these even were. Tomorrow I am going to Iowa City and they have Scheel's over there. I'll try to buy them there. I'll try to get hornadys. They seem to be very accurate on the size.

 

[necchi]

Chances are you ran into a clerk that didn't know, or it's a store policy.

Wally world here in Minn won't even sell "airsoft" projectiles to a minor! I didn't believe it so I took the boy over there, We got to the till he put the bottle down, I handed him a 20 in front of the clerk, he handed it to her. She said she couldn't sell to a minor. I took the 20 from his hand and handed it to her. She took it and rang up the purchase

To her credit she apologized, said it was store policy, and pointed to the camera, saying she didn't want to loose her job.

 

[luieb45]

I think it is some stores policy because at Scheel's today it said must be 18 on it. I didn't go hand empty handed though. :rotf:

 

[ohio ramrod]

If it was an Orslon farm and home store, the clerk just did not know what she was talking about. The company does not have rules on round balls. ( At least they did not in the past ) But then most "store Clerks" aren't " gun store" clerks.

 

[sepiatone]

What's a FOID card? Is this a card that you need to carry in order to purchase ammo? How many states have something like this? I'm originally from California and thought I've heard it all.

 

[buttonbuck]

Firearms Ownership Identification Card, it costs 10 dollars for 10 years one of the Illinois Govs Blogovich (currently indicted and removed)wanted to raise it to 500 for 5 years if that would have passed I would be a kentucky resident now. We have some real stupid laws.

 

[jethro224]

What's a FOID card? Is this a card that you need to carry in order to purchase ammo? How many states have something like this? I'm originally from California and thought I've heard it all.

We have to have it to purchase ammo, we have to have it to purchase guns, we must have it in our possession at all times while carrying any firearms or ammo.

 

[R.M.]

And people think Canada has it bad!! :surrender:

 

[MacTavish]

How about visitors to the State?
I have relatives in Illinois and thought I might get to a shoot or two over a long stay.

 

[TFoley]

The other day I was at the farmstore and I was going to return my cva balls that I had a bad experience with and exchange for some others. I tried to return them but the cashier said they do not accept returns on ammunition. All I tried to return was a pack of roundballs, nothing else. So then I said I'll just buy the other balls and just not return the cva balls. I am only 15 and she said I have to be 18 and have a valid FOID card to buy "ammunition" which she considered roundballs as ammunition. I have bought balls at other stores and had no problems just a problem with these. Is there a law that prevents people from buying roundballs if you have no FOID card and am under 15? Thanks

....and to think that YOU guys have a good laff at US over here and our rather odd laws. :shake:

tac

 

[MSW]

at the risk of sounding smug, i haven't purchased 'factory loads' since about 1989. that way (among other advantages) no (insert cusswords here) government toady can check out what you have or how much you have.

not to say that this sort of insidious meddling doesn't count as an 'infringement.'

 

[jethro224]

How about visitors to the State?
I have relatives in Illinois and thought I might get to a shoot or two over a long stay.

Visitors don't need the FOID card to shoot. Just residents. Don't stay too long, they might think you're a resident. :haha:

 

[n.h.schmidt]

Hi
I am a eastern Iowa resident.I also do at least some gun business in the Ill. towns accross the river. In Iowa no ID need be shown to buy ammo of any kind provided you are old enough.A Ill.resident would be ok buying ammo here with or without a foid card. BP is hardly considered by the law at all here. That isn't true in Ill. though. I think it was the age problem more than anything. The clerk had it wrong about a foid card.
MY Ill. friends do have hoops to jump through that Iowans don't have.
n.h.schmidt

 

[paulvallandigham]

Ill. Residents have to possess a FOID card to buy components at retail, but you can order them through the mail from most companies without a problem. The Retailers limit their checks of your card to primers, and powder- not bullets, or Lead Balls. Those are the "Active" components that the police are worried about. The legislation is silent on this issue, BTW, but the Ill. State Police have taken it on themselves, with the help of the Ill. Attorney General, to threaten retailers with prosecution if they don't check IDs on purchasing powder, primers, and cartridges.

Who says Illinois isn't run by the Crooks?? :rotf+ OF the crooks, and FOR the crooks? )