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Drago

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If you have one what kind of loads are you using? Wondering what type of hunting you do as well.
 
I am not sure on the age, it's a flintlock with London on each lock. Don't see any other marks on it. Steel hardware, pewter nose cap, hooked barrel and one key, one piece stock and checkered wrist and forarm. You can see shrinkage of the wood at the butt plate, the wood has bee repaired around the lock area. I shot it today with some light loads and a few with 70 grains of 3fff and same amount of 7 shot. It did pretty good, one lock needs work.
 
I shoot my 16ga. with 1oz. load of #7 1/2's and 70 gr. of 2F. All my shooting is really on doves or clay targets. For squirrel and rabbit, I use #6. Pattern testing, will tell you what load gives the best patterns and you may have it now. Again, hit the patterning targets.
 
Drago said:
I am not sure on the age, it's a flintlock with London on each lock.

There are two London's listed, Edward and William, both at 50 London Wall, active from 1822 until Edwards death in 1866. That puts it in the "whacky patent period" which might explain those weird cocks.

Looks like a fun gun :thumbsup:
 
Thanks for the information on the maker, did they build guns or just the locks?
 
Drago said:
Thanks for the information on the maker, did they build guns or just the locks?

With the 1820's you are coming into a period of transition. Soon percussion will enable engineers to make guns without apprenticing themselves to a gun maker, but the steam hammers are not yet hot forging standard parts.

You can separate the gun maker from the lock maker if it is a military contract, but I am not sure about shotguns :confused:
 
Rifleman1776 said:
They are different looking but I would love to have that right hand lock.

Hi Frank

Deliciously slender, good banana and a quirky cock. What's, not to like? :grin:

Robin
 
The stock is 2 1/8 wide at th locks, not bad at all. It shoulders well.
 
I have a 15 and a 14 gauge British originals, and am shooting 68 grains FFg with 3/4 to 1 oz shot. 7/8 oz 7 1/2 for grouse and woodcock, 1 oz 6 for pheasant.

(Brits tends toward lighter shotgun loads than Americans.)
 
I have a modern-made 16ga flint double with no chokes. All my loads are with FFg (or CTG) powder, and for clays, most upland, or snowshoe hares, I usually use 1oz over 2dr or 2.1/4dr, or 1.1/8oz over 2.1/4dr or 2.1/2dr, with #8 - #5 shot (usually magnum), depending. The gun's not a lightweight (7lb even) so for pheasants, waterfowl, or jack rabbits, I sometimes go up to 1.1/4oz over 2.1/2dr or 2.3/4dr with magnum #5s or bismuth #4s. The recoil's still quite comfortable with this load, but I don't want to over-stress the stock, so that's as heavy as I'll go in this double. I don't hunt squirrels because we only have small black or red ones here, and they are classed as fur-bearers so one needs a trapping license to take them.

Regards,
Joel
 
Squire Robin said:
That puts it in the "whacky patent period" which might explain those weird cocks.
I seem to recall pictures of some late French guns (both handguns and fowlers) with cocks like those, as well as some Mantons(?) doubles. Now to see if I can find the illistrations.....

Regards,
Joel
 
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