long range

[frankie]

I have a Lyman gpr 1-32 twist 50 caliber percussion. If I was wanting to shoot at targets 4 to 500 yards away what rear or tang sight should I get? And yes, front sight? Idaho Ron was great enough to help me pick a load already as to what to start out with.

 

[deerstalkert]

a good globe front and a good ladder in the rear. Ron and Lewis would be the experts to ask. be prepared to spend as much for sights as for another gun!

 

[French Colonial]

A Red River rear sight and a Baldwin front from Buffalo arms will not break the bank.

Call them and tell them what you want to do, Dave Gullo has done a lot of long range shooting.

 

[hanshi]

Good luck. I can't see deer or targets at 400 yds, I've tried.

 

[bubba.50]

Instead of asking here I would read and study the words of Idaho Ron and Idaholewis on these pages and on youtube and emulate them. They have both put in the work and know what works and what doesn't.

 

[Freedom]

Montana Vintage Arms is the best soule sight made. Kelly sights are probably the nicest looking.

 

[ResearchPress]

While selecting your sight, do consider the shape of your stock and how low you will be able to adjust the sight. Some sights, especially Soule type with their windage adjustment, are designed for breech loaders and unless you also include a high foresight you may not be able to adjust them to also use at shorter ranges. If seeking to keep things ‘traditional’ keep in mind that the Soule sight was not patented until 1889 and may not be appropriate to your rifle.

David

 

[stikshooter]

Lee Shaver makes a nice set ,believe Lewis uses them ,I do and when Lee answered the phone I told him what I had (a TC Renegade )he said wait one and came back with his after looking in the closet . Said it was the 1st one he shot long and suggested the venier for ( long) how to mount and the front globe to go with it , all this from a world class competitor/gunsmith and builder /nuff said/Ed

 

[doubleset]

If I were to want to shoot at that distance regularly, I would seriously think of putting a tube sight on it.

 

[Ranch 13]

You would do well to get ahold of Dave Gullo at Buffalo Arms or Lee Shaver as they both compete regularly on the USIMLT international teams.
Another good one to contact would be Ed Decker in Tennessee. He was the captain of the USIMLT team, and is currently running a series of articles in the Black Powder news magazine.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I have a Lyman gpr 1-32 twist 50 caliber percussion. If I was wanting to shoot at targets 4 to 500 yards away what rear or tang sight should I get? And yes, front sight? Idaho Ron was great enough to help me pick a load already as to what to start out with.

Actually I think you might want to first look at 220 yards.
That's "40 rods" and was the old standard for basic long range shooting.
Refer to The Muzzle-Loading Cap Lock Rifle by Ned Roberts. It covers long range shooting. Master 220 yards first and then go for more if you wish.
A vernier, tang, peep sight is likely what you will want to have. The book covers everything that a shooter wants, and includes photographs.

LD

 

[Tom A Hawk]

My Sharps is outfitted with a globe and Vernier. Shooting 500 grainers at 700 yards, you almost have time to go get a sandwich and come back before the bullet strikes.

 

[doubleset]

Shoulder-mounted BP mortar?

 

[Idaho Ron]

Some have already suggested to talk to Lee Shavers. I normally use Lyman 57 SML peeps to go to 300 yards. They can go a bit farther but if you want to go to 500 or beyond talk to lee. Lewis actually talked me into this sight. I called Lee and he agreed that for my shooting out to 1000 yards just for fun it should work fine.
This sight is the economy model with the Hadley eye cup.

As others have said you will need a better and probably taller front sight. This is the Lee Shavers Farriss globe sight.

I can't remember what load we talked about. If you want to got to 500 and farther you will want a better bullet than the Lee 500 S&W bullet.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Whatever you end up with, if it is a quality sight, be prepared to lay out some big bucks. Very likely more than what the rifle is worth.

 

[Snydly]

Montana Vintage Arms is the best soule sight made. Kelly sights are probably the nicest looking.

Total agreement. Have 2 of the MVA sights

 

[French Colonial]

And the nice thing about those expensive sights, if you decide to switch guns, they come off just as easy as they went on and most times will fit on the new lead launcher.

 

[William O.]

I have a Lyman gpr 1-32 twist 50 caliber percussion. If I was wanting to shoot at targets 4 to 500 yards away what rear or tang sight should I get? And yes, front sight? Idaho Ron was great enough to help me pick a load already as to what to start out with.

That's a GPH barrel you have there, Great Plains Hunter. I had one and got great accuracy from it using 95 grains of 3f Goex, lubed fiber wad and a 220 Lee REAL bullet on top. Please work up a load in your rifle first though, don't start with anything more than 50 grains.

 

[Bad Karma]

I have a Lyman gpr 1-32 twist 50 caliber percussion. If I was wanting to shoot at targets 4 to 500 yards away what rear or tang sight should I get? And yes, front sight? Idaho Ron was great enough to help me pick a load already as to what to start out with.

Everyone seems to agree that Lee Shaver’s economy Soule sight is a good one. For a front globe many people are using the Lyman 17AHB with Lee Shaver’s inserts. The Lyman inserts will work but they’re very course, for fine work on targets the Shavers set is much better. Lee can also recommend a base for the tang and the location it needs to be placed in order to work with your front sight.

Good luck. I can't see deer or targets at 400 yds, I've tried.

You need bigger targets!

 

[frankie]

A Red River rear sight and a Baldwin front from Buffalo arms will not break the bank.

Call them and tell them what you want to do, Dave Gullo has done a lot of long range shooting.

Thanks French, I am good friends with Steve Baldwin and have bought several of his sights. They are A1. I was wanting something a little less in cost because this rifle may not be babied. I think I will call Shavers.