Long rifle kits?

[GoodRabbitPilgrim]

I'm getting more and more interested in a kit but am not sure of which would be best.

I'm after a long rifle or jager of some kind in 58" that is exclusively for hunting.

I've been leaning toward Chambers, but there are multiple models so no idea what's best. The Edward Marshall looks like a nice gun but open to other ideas.

Any other suggestions for similar makes of about the same level of skill and time required appreciated.

Kkbler is not an option so please do not suggest or start discussion on them.

 

[ILoveMuzzleloading]

A Chambers kit will do you right, but there are others I hear good things about.

Track of the Wolf's Jaeger
Dunlap Woodcraft's Jaeger - I've not built of of their kits but my family has bought a lot of nice stocks from them over the years.
Pecatonica's Jaeger - Pecatonica advertises in several magazines, good reviews from what I read.
Rifle Shoppe Jarger- Rifle shop has great reviews in the community, but shipping can be slow, some report months long wait times, some receive goods quickly

 

[tnlonghunter]

I just finished a Dunlap Isaac Haines kit, and I did a Chambers York several years ago. I had very little experience when I did the Chambers, and it turned out only "so-so." The Dunlap was much better, having done a whole lot of other kinds of woodworking in the intervening years. But I don't know that I thought there was much difference between them in terms of how much work they needed. If I was to build what you're talking about, the Edward Marshall would be exactly the thing. Now, that's because I don't especially care for the Jaeger appearance all that much, but that's just personal preference.

Just for something to consider, a 37-38" barrel will usually be more acccurate and forgiving due to the longer barrel length, and I think you'll get better ballistic performance in a .58, since you'll be more likely to get full powder-burn before the ball leaves the barrel. That short Jaeger barrel may not be long enough to allow full burn before the ball leaves the barrel, which would essentially mean wasted powder and reduced MV.

Not that those considerations are huge deals. Either will work great for deer and big game. That 31" Jaeger may be better if you're hunting short ranges in thick brush.

 

[hanshi]

I'm a fan of the "Germanic" jaeger with the open tg and a shorter barrel bothers me not at all. .58 would be an excellent caliber for that or a "Christian Springs" style Edward Marshall rifle. Good luck with your search.

 

[Cpt Flint]

Pecatonica! By all means!

 

[GoodRabbitPilgrim]

Pecatonica! By all means!

How do they compare to Chambers in terms of work to be done?

 

[Beaver3365]

If you are a skilled builder, I'd suggest Pecatonica or Tennessee Valley Muzzleloaders. If not real experienced, Pedersoli is a easy kit.

 

[Sidney Smith]

The Rifle Shoppe took about 3 months to get my matchlock kit to me, but the kit is quality, so it was worth it.

 

[Capt. Jas.]

Of your choices and criteria, I would go with the Chambers Ed Marshall hands down. Good lock, good barrel, good architecture and good hardware.

 

[martin9]

+1, Chambers all the way. Everything mentioned is going to be the same amount of work/skill required

 

[hanshi]

I agree that if you want an Edward Marshall kit Chambers is the way to go.

 

[Brianl1620]

A Chambers kit will do you right, but there are others I hear good things about.

Track of the Wolf's Jaeger
Dunlap Woodcraft's Jaeger - I've not built of of their kits but my family has bought a lot of nice stocks from them over the years.
Pecatonica's Jaeger - Pecatonica advertises in several magazines, good reviews from what I read.
Rifle Shoppe Jarger- Rifle shop has great reviews in the community, but shipping can be slow, some report months long wait times, some receive goods quickly

Kibler’s hands down the best!

 

[Cattywompuss]

Kibler’s hands down the best!

OP said not to even mention the company you mentioned. To quote some English folk: "Be advised..."

 

[GoodRabbitPilgrim]

OP said not to even mention the company you mentioned. To quote some English folk: "Be advised..."

There's always one!

 

[DuncNZ]

A mate has a Jim Chambers English Gentleman's sporting rifle he built from a kit and it is a real beauty , every thing was there that was meant to be there and was of seriously good quality .Chambers Mark Silver Virginia rifle is a nice one
My main suggestion to you is get a kit from someone who has developed a reputation for prompt and trustworthy delivery overseas , and delivers complete kits . It can be hard to get a missing part delivered or a stock with a crack in it replaced .
The most important for you is that they are willing to deliver overseas , a lot won't . Track have sent dozens to folks I know here in New Zealand , without a single stuff up.
Which ever one get it before Australia changes its firearms rules again

 

[GoodRabbitPilgrim]

A mate has a Jim Chambers English Gentleman's sporting rifle he built from a kit and it is a real beauty , every thing was there that was meant to be there and was of seriously good quality .Chambers Mark Silver Virginia rifle is a nice one
My main suggestion to you is get a kit from someone who has developed a reputation for prompt and trustworthy delivery overseas , and delivers complete kits . It can be hard to get a missing part delivered or a stock with a crack in it replaced .
The most important for you is that they are willing to deliver overseas , a lot won't . Track have sent dozens to folks I know here in New Zealand , without a single stuff up.
Which ever one get it before Australia changes its firearms rules again

I have since spoken with Barbie at Chambers about either the English gentleman's or Edward Marshall. I like everything about the English gentleman's except the single trigger.

I'm not too worried about our laws changing, covid is the main pain at the moment!

Hoping to get over to your part of the world this year to chase cham but who knows between our crazy governments what will be on the cards.

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
This thread will show you an Edward Marshal rifle in detail. It is not a Chambers kit but uses the same barrel, pipes, butt plate, and trigger guard sold by Barbie for the kit. I made the stock from scratch and modified an M&G lock to be more historically correct for the gun.
https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/building-an-edward-marshall-rifle.128586/
dave

 

[Jaegermeister]

I love my .62 TOTW Jaeger but wish I had gone with the Edward Marshall. Probably a more common style seen in the early days in the colonies.

 

[Brianl1620]

There's always one!

Did I say something wrong?

 

[Brianl1620]

OP said not to even mention the company you mentioned. To quote some English folk: "Be advised..."

Did I say something wrong?