Lyman GPR question

[BrianL]

When did Lyman start putting the warning stamp on the lower portion of the barrel down by the underrib?

I am not all too familiar with the Lymans and have one with the warning on the top left and the other has the stamping low left and further up the barrel.

 

[BrianL]

Ok, :hmm: does anyone, other than me, have a GPR with the warning/Investarms stamped about midway up the barrel on the left side bottom flat beside the under rib?

 

[Lonegun1894]

Two of mine are stamped closer to the breech, and the third one used to be til I drawfiled it off. I know that doesn't help you much. Do you know how old your rifle is? Mine are all within the last 10 years or so.

 

[Chris Cade]

the gpr i just bought has that warning on the barrel, but a replacement barrel i bought from a fellow on the forum doesn't have the warning. i'm planning on filing the warning off with i refinish the old barrel.

 

[paulvallandigham]

Why would anyone file off a Safety Warning Stamp put on the barrel by the manufacturer? Don't you realize that if you sell that barrel/gun later to someone, and he then sells it to someone else, who doesn't have a clue how to load these barrels safely, and- heaven forbid-- he injures himself, he is going to sue not only the manufacturer, but Everyone in the CHAIN OF SALE --INCLUDING YOU-- for providing him with a "defective product"?

The manufacturer has a defense- it keeps records and will be able to show it put that warning stamp on the barrel. The retailer( FFL) who sold the gun to you will have the same defense.

But YOU are the guy who filed off the stamp, not only removing a "reasonable effort to warn consumers" of the inherent dangers in using the product, but by filing off metal, possibly weakening the wall of the barrel and contributing to the injuries. Any way, the jury has a couple of hooks on which to hang their hats, and find you guilty of creating a defective product, holding you liable for his injuries and pain and suffering.

Do you carry enough insurance to cover a 6 or 7 figure judgment??? Can you hire a civil attorney and pay for the expensive lab testing you will need to do to show the plaintiff used smokeless powder to blow up the gun barrel and injure himself- to give yourself a defense, where the manufacturer has both the lawyers, the expertise, and the equipment to do the testing?

And, are you prepared to have counterclaims filed by everyone else in the chain of sale against you for filing on that barrel, claiming you are solely at fault for the defective product, and you should pay any judgment entered against them???

We live in a litigious society, with people just waiting for an opportunity to file a lawsuit after an injury. I don't like it any more than you do, and usually find myself using my knowledge about guns to defeat product liability lawsuits involved guns.

Talk to your insurance agents, and a lawyer skilled in products liability litigation before you go filing off safety warnings on gun barrels. :surrender: :thumbsup:

Please??? :idunno: :surrender:

 

[Semisane]

Oh my Lord Paul. :shocked2: Your lawyer roots are showing, and they're not pretty. :grin:

 

[paulvallandigham]

What kind of friend would I be to the members here if I kept silent, when I know what plaintiff's lawyers do when they file products liability lawsuits, and, more importantly, what our products liability laws allow them to do? :shocked2: :surrender: :hatsoff:

Just to add to the concern: Because the Lyman guns are actually manufacturered for them in Europe, our Product liability suits don't apply to the Company, while any after-market changes in the gun that occur in this Country are subject to such lawsuits. :shocked2: :shocked2: :youcrazy: :surrender:

 

[BrownBear]

Ok, :hmm: does anyone, other than me, have a GPR with the warning/Investarms stamped about midway up the barrel on the left side bottom flat beside the under rib?

We have half a dozen Lymans including a couple from kits, and none are as you describe. The "youngest" of the herd is around 6 years old, so maybe it's something recent.

 

[S.Kenton]

So.. in all reality.. the solution would be this: if ya file the warning label off.... Then DON"T sell the gun,right?.. so how about when a custom gun maker draw files the warning labels? I've seen many that have had EVERYTHING filed off.. even the cal designation. Those guys, according to you, could get into trouble as well correct?
:hmm:

 

[stormcrow]

My GPR has no warning label but can someone please tell me - what in the world does the warning label say??

 

[BrownBear]

...but can someone please tell me - what in the world does the warning label say??

It's lawyereze, written for lawyers. Basically it sezz don't Homer Simpson your gun. DOH... :haha:

 

[stormcrow]

I was thinking it might say " WARNING: If this gun is loaded and you can read this - your head is way too close to the muzzle" :grin:

 

[BrianL]

I will get a picture of the stamping and location as compared to the other GPR in the rack. It is very odd that this is the only one. It must be rare and extremely valuable :applause:

 

[Semisane]

My GPR has an unusual warning label also.

 

[BrianL]

My GPR has an unusual warning label also.

Yes, that is the one, but mine is more wordy and is mid barrel on the next to bottom flat :thumbsup:

 

[mjulihn]

That warning looks like the first 16 pages of your typical Thompson/Lyman/Traditions/Cabelas BP owners manual! :wink:

 

[BrianL]

Same warning/address/Investarms logo as the one normally found on the left breach

 

[dcriner]

Is that a stick-on label that can be peeled off? Or is the warning engraved on the bbl?

I would never knowingly buy a gun with such a warning, unless it could be peeled off. What about the 10 commandments of gun safety?

 

[BrianL]

Far as I know, all Lymans have this warning.This is the only one that I have heard of in this location. It is filled with chalk for visabity

 

[Stumpkiller]

:rotf:

What? Nothing about firing it submerged in the bathtub or while under the influence of strong drink, while operating machinery or in the presence of in-laws? :rotf: