Miroku Brown Bess help needed

[tree]

I have acquired one of the old Miroku Brown Bess
from years ago. It is in excellent condition
but would like to get a worm for the ramrod.
Looks like a 12-24 pitch according to my thread
checker. Anyone have a source for such a size.
All I have found so far are 8-32 or 10-32.
Any help would be appreciated.

 

[thatoneguy82]

This might do what you need http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/587/2/WORM-1817-12-F

 

[hawkeye2]

It would be a metric thread but I don't know what it is at the moment. It might be very close to 12-24 which is an inch thread. Take a look at these cleaning accessories:
http://www.gggodwin.com/ProdList.asp?scat=78

The musket pump is really fast & great for cleaning.

 

[Artificer]

I would just drill out the hole in a full size repro worn with a Number # 17 twist drill and re-tap the hole for 12 x 24. IF it really is that thread and not a metric thread. I think it would be a metric thread, though.

Back in the 90's when the repro .69 cal. M1842 muskets first came out, no one made a worm for them in the metric thread of the rammers. Original .69 cal. worms were still fairly cheap, so I just drilled and re-tapped them for the metric threaded rammers. I did it with a hand drill and going at a rather slow speed with lots of oil on the twist drill bit.

Gus

 

[nwtradegun]

check contemporary longrifle ass. site there are makers who can make a worm in ant thread for you

 

[Zonie]

As was said, it is probably metric.

The nearest metric size to a #12-24 thread is a M6 X 1.0mm

 

[Alden]

It is customary to rethread the ramrod... It is REALLY close to one of the common worms already.

 

[Artificer]

For what ever it is worth, in my experience with NSSA shooters and Reenactors in both Flint and Percussion guns with rammers with metric threads - it was better for more people to rethread the worms. I have seen a LOT of rammers where they screwed up the rammer threads when trying to re-thread them.

Gus

 

[tree]

Thanks for all the replies---I have been given several options
To choose from and this help is appreciated!

 

[buzz]

I madeadaptors for the ne i had

 

[pargent]

Tow sell metric worms and jags to fit the metric besses :thumbsup:

 

[spudnut]

In the meantime, Make up a toggle and string for cleaning it and get out there and make some smoke :hatsoff:

 

[hawkeye2]

I used 12 gauge shotgun cleaning tools on my Italian Bess, they work just fine even though the bore is .750". I added another section to an aluminum shotgun cleaning rod and use a Chevy smallblock V8 valve retainer as a bore guide. The handle on a shotgun cleaning rod is fixed as opposed to a rifle which swivels.

 

[Tommy Bruce]

I believe Smiling Fox Forge has them. I picked up one a couple of years ago for my Jap Bess. Those old Miroku muskets are great guns.

 

[tree]

The 12-24 model 1817 worm mentioned by KH worked
Perfectly without modification. Thanks for all the other
Suggestions some of which I may be able to use on other
Guns!,

 

[TAC2]

Hello,
You need to call Dixie Gun Works
that was who they were made for,that
is where I got my cleaning jag and worm
from but it's been a while ago.
Hope this helps.
TAC2.

 

[TAC2]

Here is the link for DGW

http://www.dixiegun.com/

TAC2.

 

[spudnut]

and don't use a nylon bore brush don't ask me why I know,,,,But do a search for a tornado brush in 12 gauge :thumbsup: ....works like a charm

 

[pargent]

Is there any reason you went with the .69 cal. worm instead of the cheaper .75 cal. worm for your .75 cal. bess or is it 12 gauge ?

 

[TAC2]

Who said anything about a nylon brush not me . I
got was saying that Dixie Gun Works sold those
Bess muskets back in the 70's and 80's and that is where I got my cleaning jag and worm in 75cal.
THANK YOU....