Who makes the most authentic looking non firing Brown Bess for school living history lessons.? It needs to spark!
Most Authentic looking non firing Bess ???
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You need to find a dealer who sells replicas without a drilled touchhole. I don't know of a school in the US that would let you bring even a scale model of a gun on the grounds. You might be able to do it at a scout or 4H meeting depending on where they were held.
Actually here in central California it’s ok as long as it’s non firing replica w/o bayonet. Los Angeles Unified you can’t even bring a picture of a gun. So many school districts it’s ok!
I guess I need to know which dealer of these non firing muskets produces the best musket.
You are probably limited to an Indian made Bess which will have some accuracy issues but it's likely the only game in town. I have no dealings with Indian guns or these folks but based on their offerings and what I have read on the forums over the years these are the go to folks.
https://www.loyalistarms.ca/index.php
They offer 2 different models of the Bess. Sorry, 3 models.
https://www.loyalistarms.ca/index.php
They offer 2 different models of the Bess. Sorry, 3 models.
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I would take a regular Bess, make sure it was not loaded by using the ramrod and then a flashlight. Once it is confirmed empty, glue a hunter orange plastic plug into the muzzle. If some day you want to shoot the gun, you could ream out the plastic and restore it to functional.
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I always used a Pedersoli, but switched out the slotted touchhole liner for one that wasn't drilled. In 100 or so school visits it was never questioned. Things in CA may make this not an option, but you might check.
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Why not just take one of the Besses you already have and put a blob of low temp soft solder in the touch hole. Dress it off and the hole will disappear. Then you can heat it to remove the solder or just drill it out so the musket can be used.
dave
Why not just take one of the Besses you already have and put a blob of low temp soft solder in the touch hole. Dress it off and the hole will disappear. Then you can heat it to remove the solder or just drill it out so the musket can be used.
dave
Thank you. Have you ever heard of Military Heritage
Have you heard of Military Heritage Arms aka Access Heritage arms in Canada? They say they make muskets without the touch hole drilled.
Loyalist sells their guns ready to shoot.
Discriminated General/ military is sans touchhole
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They offer several models of bess, charley and German guns, $700dollar range
Discriminated General/ military is sans touchhole
Good sparklers
They offer several models of bess, charley and German guns, $700dollar range
Yes, I am aware of this but I’m looking for NON firing muskets in order to bring them onto school grounds. I have found one company that does not drill out the touch hole but I know nothing about the companies trustworthyness. Has anyone heard of of Military Heritage Arms aka Access Heritage arms in Canada? Are they legit?
Simple answer is that despite this relatively easy hole plugging modification it is still considered a firearm under the California Penial Code and as such regardless of the modification it was manufactured to fire. It’s a “small” detail but unless your a lawyer or a judge it’s difficult to explain this technicality that they will use to hang your ***. Laws are specific things and a creative by pass just doesn’t hold up. Forget about common sense, it doesn’t apply.
As a last resort I may have to do this. BUT it’s still classified as a firearm and they can come after you orange plug and all. They don’t care what color it is. If the firearm is designed to shoot regardless of mods to make it otherwise you are standing on quicksand. Especially in California.
I have heard of a company in Canada that sells museum quality non firing muskets called Military Heritage Arms aka Access Heritage arms. Has anyone heard of them. There is little online accolades for them.
Military Heritage Arms aka Access Heritage is probably second to Loyalist but Loyalist would probably sell you a gun without a touchhole if you requested as they drill them in house. You make a good point in posts 13 & 14. It may take more than a plugged touchhole to "deactivate" a musket. Having bought and sold deactivated unmentionables I can assure you the process goes beyond just plugging the bore or chamber.
Yep, and I’ll call Loyalist in the morning. Have you heard of or know anything about of Military Heritage Arms aka Access Heritage arms in Canada?
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