My Trade Rifle beat me up

Straighter stocks seem to be the "fault" with modern half-stock designs, unlike ther predecessors with more "drop",.... and, with the Lyman GPR be'n a reasonable exception to modern think'n!!

YMHS
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[jim gray]

Maybe it's just the .54 caliber that does this. My .50 cal. kicks pretty hard with 90 grains of 3Fg, but it isn't painful; just noticeably harder than other guns using the same load, and I don't have any problem with my gun smacking me in the cheek.

 

[BLAHMAN]

Overall, it sounds like a poor stock design is the leading issue, regarding "cheek beatings". Is that generally what happens when purchasing an off the shelf product like a GPR? :hmm:

 

Overall, it sounds like a poor stock design is the leading issue, regarding "cheek beatings". Is that generally what happens when purchasing an off the shelf product like a GPR? :hmm:

BLAHMAN,.... The Lyman GPR has more "drop" in it's stock when compared to other mass-produced half-stocks, and should not be a problem.

YMHS
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[musketman]

I don't know why it is but my Lyman Trade Rifle beats me up something fierce when shooting heavy conicals.
I guess it's the shape of the stock.
I alway's and up with a black and blue cheek after a shooting session.

May I ask if other guns you fire do the same?

Are you holding the trade rifle differently than other rifles?

 

[Stumpkiller]

I don't know why it is but my Lyman Trade Rifle beats me up something fierce when shooting heavy conicals.

Don't shoot heavy conicals. :youcrazy:

My dog bites me when I jamb stuff down his throat he doesn't like. :haha:

Feed it round balls like God intended. :: Your suffering will be over.

 

[jtmattison]

May I ask if other guns you fire do the same?

Are you holding the trade rifle differently than other rifles?

Nope, just the Trade Rifle. Something about the stock just sit's different on me.

Don't shoot heavy conicals.

My dog bites me when I jamb stuff down his throat he doesn't like.

Feed it round balls like God intended. Your suffering will be over.

I do primarily shoot roundball. I want heavy conicals for the big critters that bite.

Huntin

 

[musketman]

I do primarily shoot roundball. I want heavy conicals for the big critters that bite.

Huntin

You could try backing off on the powder charge a bit, that may help reduce the recoil and effects you feel...

-or-

Pad the cheek piece of the stock...

 

[silverfox]

Let's look again at this. If the new straight pull design stocks reduce recoil to straight back meaning less muzzle jump to hit the cheek this is good? If more drop to the stock means more muzzle jump that would mean more hit on the cheek which would be bad. The answer to this is quit shooting MAX LOADS with heavy conicals out of rifles designed to shoot PRBs. This will in effect stop the pounding on your cheek. GPR in .50 or .54 with PRB should be big enough for anything in the lower 48. :imo:
Fox :thumbsup:

 

[scott k]

Silverfox, I think my trade rifle has a little to much cast off. Looking down the stock I would say there's about 3/4". It lines up nice to the eye though. The cast off with a rising cheek piece is what I have and the source of my sore cheek I think. :imo:
Lehigh...

 

[Stumpkiller]

Put a bit more weight on your foot closest the target. (Lean slightly forward from the hips, not by curling your back or bending your neck more), pull it up tight to your shoulder and cheek with your trigger hand and don't shoot while sitting down. The curved buttplate of the Lyman limits the positions you can work it into.

 

[Kenney Moore]

[/quote]
I do primarily shoot roundball. I want heavy conicals for the big critters that bite.

Huntin [/quote]

Howdy,

Here is something to think about. If the conical is just for the critter that bites, I bet you will not feel the one shot you will get at that critter. Besides the bite of the critter could be a lot worse.
Just a thought!
:imo:

 

I do primarily shoot roundball. I want heavy conicals for the big critters that bite.

Huntin

Howdy,

Here is something to think about. If the conical is just for the critter that bites, I bet you will not feel the one shot you will get at that critter. Besides the bite of the critter could be a lot worse.
Just a thought!
:imo: [/quote]

Speak'n from "experience" ,.... tha last time I war kilt by'a bear, I crammed tha intire riflegun down'ees throat and made my "escape"!! :thumbsup:

..... leastwise, I think it war a "bear", could'a been a low tree branch or sumpthin ::!! :haha: (kind'a hard'ta tell when yore blind!! :cry

YMHS
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[jtmattison]

We're talking a Trade Rifle here. 1:48 twist. Hardly designed to shoot PRB.
You guy's are really running with this one.
The answer to my problem will be to not target shoot with my 100 grain charge and 450 grain bullet.
It beats me up, no mystery as to why. Heavy bullet, heavy charge, heavy recoil.
I was working on a heavy hunting load and I found it.
When it comes to shooting for fun I do shoot PRB, and lot's of it.
I primarily hunt with PRB. I just wanted a good back up load for biting critters.

Huntin

 

We're talking a Trade Rifle here. 1:48 twist. Hardly designed to shoot PRB.
You guy's are really running with this one.

Thet "twist" sure worked well in the original "Hawkens" with roundballs and heavy charges!! :thumbsup: :applause: :imo:

YMHS
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[Stumpkiller]

Hardly designed to shoot PRB.

????

Plains rifles were designed and built specifically to launch a round, lead ball with a cloth patch. The originals and the copies.

1:48" isn't the ideal twist for either a ball or a conical, it's a modern concession. I shoot nothing but PRB in two 1:48" twist rifles that I own.

 

[musketman]

The answer to my problem will be to not target shoot with my 100 grain charge and 450 grain bullet.
It beats me up, no mystery as to why. Heavy bullet, heavy charge, heavy recoil.

I'm thinking you could make a padded soft leather cheek cover that is tied on with leather laces...

This will help absorb the recoil and reduce the bruising effects on you...

 

[jtmattison]

What I meant was the 1:48 is not ideal for roundball.
My 1:60 GPR is much better suited for roundball.

My 1:48 do shoot roundball pretty good, not nearly as good as my 1:60.

You can't argue with that...oh wait, I know you'll find a way to ::

MM,
The cheek pad is a good idea but I doubt the old timers used them.

Huntin

 

[Stumpkiller]

The cheek pad is a good idea but I doubt the old timers used them.

They were more common than conicals. :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

 

[jtmattison]

They were more common than conicals.

Can you prove that :bull: :blah:

Huntin