My Trade Rifle beat me up

One thing thet ain't been mentioned since this thread started is,.... exactly "what calibur" is yore Trade rifle??

.50, or .54????

I'm not real familar with conicals for muzzleloaders, so 450gr. conicals doesn't tell me what calibur you've got!! ::

YMHS
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[Stumpkiller]

Can you prove that?

The ratio of cheekpads divided by conicals is undefined because there were no conicals on the plains "back then."

Mini

 

[jtmattison]

One thing thet ain't been mentioned since this thread started is,.... exactly "what calibur" is yore Trade rifle??

.50, or .54????

It's .54

. . . about the predecessors of the one-piece T/C Maxi-Ball and Maxi-Hunter projectiles. Not sabots (which mean "wood shoes" and involve plastic and so are easily recognized as the devil's work), but the simple one-piece cast or swaged lead bullets. Sabots, by the way, were used as early as 1833 by the French. Credited to a Lieutenant-Colonel Poncharra, who improved an 1825+/- concept created by Captain Gustave Delvigne. Delvign's bullet required a shoulder in the breech plug and that the bullet be pounded via the ramrod enough to upset the lead into the rifling - obviously not the thing for battle. The Poncharra sabot was first used in combat over in Algeria in 1840. I know the Whitworth used by Civil War snipers had a hexagonal conical bullet that fit special rifling, and Mini

 

[horkeye]

Speak'n from "experience" ,.... tha last time I war kilt by'a bear, I crammed tha intire riflegun down'ees throat and made my "escape"!! ..... leastwise, I think it war a "bear", could'a been a low tree branch or sumpthin ::!! :haha: (kind'a hard'ta tell when yore blind!! :cry

RB,

I'm not sure as I don't hunt (plus ther aint bers in Aussie, part frem koalas ) but I would imagine that a bear may GROWL when attacking; so was ther eny growlin or is you deef as well as blin? :crackup:

Lehigh County, propa longarms.

:blah:

 

Speak'n from "experience" ,.... tha last time I war kilt by'a bear, I crammed tha intire riflegun down'ees throat and made my "escape"!! ..... leastwise, I think it war a "bear", could'a been a low tree branch or sumpthin ::!! :haha: (kind'a hard'ta tell when yore blind!! :cry

RB,

I'm not sure as I don't hunt (plus ther aint bers in Aussie, part frem koalas ) but I would imagine that a bear may GROWL when attacking; so was ther eny growlin or is you deef as well as blin? :crackup:

Lehigh County, propa longarms.

:blah:

Well to be quite honest,.... I thot, I herd some "growlin",.... but it might'a jest been the sound of my 10 year-old daughter "laughin" !! :redface: :redface:

YMHS
rollingb

 

[BLAHMAN]

I think MM's idea of a padded cheek piece is a good solution.

Actually, I wonder if that GPR is a poor fit for you. Perhaps you don't notice the effects of recoil when shooting PRB's because they have less mass and the powder charge is less. Then, you shoot comicals and the thing beats you up. The comicals are heavier and perhaps you use more powder. And what sort of powder, by the way, are you using? 2f, 3f, and how much?

Not to be too critical, but if I were in an area where the local critters could eat me.......well I would like to have something other than a one-shot gun. I would think that I'd be so nervous if I were to be threatened by a angry charging bear that I could blow my one and only shot! At that point you can't just yell "Hey waite a second, stop charging me, I gotta reload!" Reload my weapon, then shout "OK, you can start charging me now!" :youcrazy: