I want a pistol with that made into the design. I could then load as tight as a patch I could smack down the barrel and get a much tighter group.
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I have a TC Patriot that needs this mod as well and I better get it done before I crack the stock as they are very prone to this malady.
The firmest thing I ever rest the grip butt of a single shot pistol against when I load it is my thigh while I'm sitting down.
So far, I haven't had a problem with cracking the grip when I'm loading one.
So far, I haven't had a problem with cracking the grip when I'm loading one.
Yes ma'am, for sure. I meant "tight" as a relative term. Back in the day, the closest we could come to a .58 bore was the then available .562" ball mold from Lyman...same problem with fit as with the Zouave and early 1841 rifles with the Minie type bore.
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Look at the direction of the grain in the pictures posted by M.D. No wonder it needs a reinforcing rod. The stock blank was cut fairly square with the grain direction. There was a similar problem with the TC Patriot pistols. A rifle stock cut that way would be likely to break as well. Check the grain direction on most rifles. Most likely it is at a slight angle to both the length axis and width axis of the stock so that some continuous layers of grain runs the length from the lock area through the wrist to the butt stock. If a rifle or shotgun was cut square like that, it would likely break at the wrist. I have cut several stocks from planks, but always made sure the stock was not square to the grain direction.
A pistol stock would be far stronger if the layers of grain were more vertical to the length axis of the stock.
The grain direction is something rarely discussed in gun stock making. I came across a discussion about this concerning the TC Patriots on another forum about a decade ago. It had something to do with the factory using straight cut planks instead of quarter sawn planks (or vice versa). A certain percentage of the stock blanks had the grip cut square to the grain as in the photo posted by M.D. I also came across a similar discussion concerning why so many late 19th century Belgian muzzle loading shotguns were cracked or broken at the wrist.
A pistol stock would be far stronger if the layers of grain were more vertical to the length axis of the stock.
The grain direction is something rarely discussed in gun stock making. I came across a discussion about this concerning the TC Patriots on another forum about a decade ago. It had something to do with the factory using straight cut planks instead of quarter sawn planks (or vice versa). A certain percentage of the stock blanks had the grip cut square to the grain as in the photo posted by M.D. I also came across a similar discussion concerning why so many late 19th century Belgian muzzle loading shotguns were cracked or broken at the wrist.
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I cut that stock from a black walnut plank picked up some where I forget now. The lay out was intentional with a reinforcing rod in mind.
I much prefer to have the grain run parallel to the barrel as I can deal with the strength issue through the grip as evidenced.
In a rifle stock, grain run with a pistol grip (not usually found on a traditional muzzle loading rifle) often makes a weak spot just behind under the comb.
This is where most pistol grip stocks break, not in the actual grip and that is because the grain runs on a diagonal with grip. This is also harder to reinforce than is the grain run pictured.
Another mistake in stock lay out is using crotch wood any where near the grip area. I have also made two piece stocks with a steel bushing through this area for reinforcement when using such wood which is certainly pretty but not very strong.
I much prefer to have the grain run parallel to the barrel as I can deal with the strength issue through the grip as evidenced.
In a rifle stock, grain run with a pistol grip (not usually found on a traditional muzzle loading rifle) often makes a weak spot just behind under the comb.
This is where most pistol grip stocks break, not in the actual grip and that is because the grain runs on a diagonal with grip. This is also harder to reinforce than is the grain run pictured.
Another mistake in stock lay out is using crotch wood any where near the grip area. I have also made two piece stocks with a steel bushing through this area for reinforcement when using such wood which is certainly pretty but not very strong.
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