Need Help Identifying This Heavy Behemoth!

[Rancocas]

"The name is well-known - J Eggiman was a noted Buchsenmachermeister in Sumiswald - a municipality in the district of the Emmental administrative district in the canton of Bern, Switzerland."

I, too, had found that much with a google search. But I still don't know the era in which he worked. Just judging by the rifle style, I would guess after 1850.

 

[Sam squanch]

I know I want one!

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

No, no hunting gun and not a bench gun at all, as that finger-grooved trigger guards were used - and are to this day! - on offhand Schuetzen target rifles.

 

[SDSmlf]

Hello All,
Trying to figure out what this is, cannot find anything on it. Any leads would be greatly appreciated please. Pics should be sufficient.
Thank you.

As others have suggested, caliber, overall length and weight would be helpful in identifying. Also post clear photographs of any markings on the bottom side of the barrel.

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Does anyone know what the winged protrusion is on the left side of the gun? My rifle has an empty hole in a slightly lower spot. No idea what it was for.

Looks to me that it holds the lock on ...

But otherwise, no, this is no hunting gun and not a bench gun at all, as those finger-grooved trigger guards were used - and are to this day! - on offhand Schuetzen target rifles.

 

[Marplot]

Does anyone know what the winged protrusion is on the left side of the gun? My rifle has an empty hole in a slightly lower spot. No idea what it was for.

Yes. The wing is to easily remove the sidelock. I have one on my Swiss Jaeger

 

[Philip A.]

Another one for auction sale in Switzerland, starting price CHF 700.-

Here is a translation of the description:

"Sniper rifle, Berner-Stutzer, "Eggimann Sumiswald". Cal. 10.5mm, modified after Milbank-Amsler.

The original large-caliber Stutzer was fitted with a feed barrel and a bolt according to Milbank-Amsler.

LL= 82.5cm, heavy round barrel, with holder for a thrust bayonet on the right side. Varnished walnut stock, iron butt cap, brass trigger guard. Wooden ramrod. Lock plate and barrel are labeled "Eggimann".

Eggimann Jakob I, 1810-1837, is mentioned in the book Schweizer Waffenschmiede by Hugo Schneider, page 94.

Starting price: 700 CHF

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

FWIW:

'Sniper', (noun) "A concealed sharpshooter; one who shoots from a hidden place," from 1824, agent noun from snipe (v.). The birds were considered a challenging target for an expert shooter: "Snipe Shooting is a good trial of the gunner's skill, who often engages in this diversion, without the assistance of a dog of any kind; a steady pointer, however, is a good companion." [Sportsman's Calendar, London, December 1818]

'Snipe', (verb) "Shoot at (men) one by one at long range from a hidden place," 1773 (among British soldiers in India), in reference to hunting snipe as game, from snipe (n.). Compare sniper. The figurative use is by 1892. Related: Sniped; sniping.

 

[Sam squanch]

No reason it couldn’t be used for target competition AND long range game shooting. It may have seen double duty.

 

[TFoley]

Agreed, civilian jaeger

Sorry sir I didn’t make the original post so I can’t give you any dimensions. I was just trying to join in like yourself.

Apologies to you, Sir. When folks have names made up of initials, rather than the usual stuff, it's easy to get 'em muxed ip.

 

[cal.43]

Dieses Gewehr ist ein in den Alpen verbreitetes Schützengewehr.

It´s like other said an Schützenrifle not uncommon in the Alpregion.

 

[GREENSWLDE]

Swiss Style 60 Rod Target Rifle. Pity the Front trigger is broken off at the trigger plate..
The one I recently sold was Belgian made by R.GHAYE with 9.6 mm (.376") bore also
came with front trigger broken. The use of the slender front trigger with its very find
set is an art in itself. The index finger is free for the trigger, other 3 fingers fit in the guard.
Many of these rifles had a post standing up from the guard just behind the wire front
trigger as a finger rest to allow the Set to be VERY fine. Weighed in at 10.5 Lbds AND
would drive Tacks at 100 mtrs. with 40 grns of Swiss No.2 and a .375 ball with .007"
patch..Should never have sold it but it did go to a good home. I will try to find some
Photo's to better show it's style,though I think there are some already somewere on
the FORUM..OLD DOG..

 

[Feltwad]

This rifle looks very similar to the one I own which is a Canton Swiss snipers rifle .
Feltwad

 

[MoZach]

Sorry All, had a few issues and was away.
Here is what I have:
Octagonal rifled heavy 38.2" barrel, 3 finger trigger guard, I cannot figure out the caliber except the I.D. of bore which is .65". Aside from that I don't know what I am looking for.

 

[MoZach]

I can't wait for Mr MoZac to get his act together, and I'm sure that the rest of you are keen to know -

The key-feature is used to adjust the set trigger pull, and the label reads

Gun number 7

Percussion Stutzer - a style of heavy hunting rifle, mostly used from a stand.

[for] Hunting - from before 1837.

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reads

turning the key releases the plate on the right.

 

[MoZach]

Swiss Style 60 Rod Target Rifle. Pity the Front trigger is broken off at the trigger plate..
The one I recently sold was Belgian made by R.GHAYE with 9.6 mm (.376") bore also
came with front trigger broken. The use of the slender front trigger with its very find
set is an art in itself. The index finger is free for the trigger, other 3 fingers fit in the guard.
Many of these rifles had a post standing up from the guard just behind the wire front
trigger as a finger rest to allow the Set to be VERY fine. Weighed in at 10.5 Lbds AND
would drive Tacks at 100 mtrs. with 40 grns of Swiss No.2 and a .375 ball with .007"
patch..Should never have sold it but it did go to a good home. I will try to find some
Photo's to better show it's style,though I think there are some already somewere on
the FORUM..OLD DOG..

There is no trigger slot in the front. Only one laid back style trigger.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Saying Jaeger to me. But, could be a Scheutzen target rifle. The sling probably would not be on a bench or wall gun.

 

[TFoley]

Sorry All, had a few issues and was away.
Here is what I have:
Octagonal rifled heavy 38.2" barrel, 3 finger trigger guard, I cannot figure out the caliber except the I.D. of bore which is .65". Aside from that I don't know what I am looking for.

Metric please. It would never be measured in inches.

 

[MoZach]

Metric please. It would never be measured in inches.

970.28mm for barrel length and 16.51mm for bore