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[stikshooter]

A gentleman with a great work ethic ,and a brilliant mind only surpassed by artistic talent , yup Jim "s a pleasure to deal with /Ed

 

[GoodRabbitPilgrim]

Just recently I had a conversation with Jim Kibler that indicates he is certainly not an unreasonable arrogant individual. I think you would do Jim as well as yourself a great disservice in thinking so. He is very accommodating and committed to custermer satisfaction.

I'm in no way trying to be rude and I did not speak with him personally, it was a lady whose name I don't recall. But after a few emails back and forth to have the correspondence stop, and then my follow up not answered I can't agree with your view from my experience. If they don't want international business fair enough, but doesn't take much just to reply to an email and say as much.

Edit: apologies to the OP for sidetracking.

 

[Zutt-man]

Congrats on that one. Looks like some pretty open country

Just happened to be an ag field in NE Kansas.

 

[MSW]

i'd go with a Kibler in .58 ..

I'm going to buy a Kibler in .58, and i'm saving up the money right now ... just have to decide between maple and cherry ... or maybe walnut .

aaaaaaargh!

 

[CapPopper]

I'm in no way trying to be rude and I did not speak with him personally, it was a lady whose name I don't recall. But after a few emails back and forth to have the correspondence stop, and then my follow up not answered I can't agree with your view from my experience. If they don't want international business fair enough, but doesn't take much just to reply to an email and say as much.

Edit: apologies to the OP for sidetracking.

I got what I wanted from this post you fellas take it wherever you feel like lol

 

[Coinneach]

Just recently I had a conversation with Jim Kibler that indicates he is certainly not an unreasonable arrogant individual. I think you would do Jim as well as yourself a great disservice in thinking so. He is very accommodating and committed to custermer satisfaction.

That may be the case for you in the USA, but reading "Kibler refused to stamp them with a serial number which means they can't come into the country. Jim ended up putting it into the too hard basket....It's a shame, but mind you kiblers never replied to my last two emails to them so I don't think they were too interested anyhow."
All we Aussies can conclude that is that Jim Kibler considers us less than worthy.

 

[Zapadach]

That may be the case for you in the USA, but reading "Kibler refused to stamp them with a serial number which means they can't come into the country. Jim ended up putting it into the too hard basket....It's a shame, but mind you kiblers never replied to my last two emails to them so I don't think they were too interested anyhow."
All we Aussies can conclude that is that Jim Kibler considers us less than worthy.

It might be a matter of cost, his operation is a small family business. Including family, I do not think there are very many people producing the kits. I sent an email as well that did not get replied to, however I did leave a voice-mail and he called me the next morning. You might try calling him and leaving a message. Maybe Australia would be intriguing enough for him to call back.

 

[Coinneach]

It might be a matter of cost, his operation is a small family business. Including family, I do not think there are very many people producing the kits. I sent an email as well that did not get replied to, however I did leave a voice-mail and he called me the next morning. You might try calling him and leaving a message. Maybe Australia would be intriguing enough for him to call back.

It might be a matter of cost, his operation is a small family business. Including family, I do not think there are very many people producing the kits. I sent an email as well that did not get replied to, however I did leave a voice-mail and he called me the next morning. You might try calling him and leaving a message. Maybe Australia would be intriguing enough for him to call back.

Thanks for your explanation, no point me calling Jim until he's producing a Left Handed variant, I'm one of those cursed alien beings....a Lefty.

 

[stikshooter]

I'm in no way trying to be rude and I did not speak with him personally, it was a lady whose name I don't recall. But after a few emails back and forth to have the correspondence stop, and then my follow up not answered I can't agree with your view from my experience. If they don't want international business fair enough, but doesn't take much just to reply to an email and say as much.

Edit: apologies to the OP for sidetracking.

Her name is Kathy (I believe) knows the product and it"s production /delivery and the owner (her husband Jim ) and has always answered any questions I had on my build or got Jim to say hi and help me thru any issue . Probably why they are busy ,don't take it personal but at least they have their shop here so I dont have to shop international like you . Perhaps try doing the same ,problem solved and you too can be overworked and still be happy with your outstanding service /just sayin /Ed

 

[William Lincoln]

.58 is a whopper stopper of a slug. It is good to review the distance of 100 yards-300 ft.
A playing card becomes a dot. Shots at 50-75 yards is realistic for iron sights. A skilled
hunter gets close to the game. I hear people talk about 300 yds with open sights but
how often would you just send a round out that will miss or maim the animal?
Assuming you can have effective energy and trajectory to make a kill out to that
range. Traditional muzzleloading hunters got within close range, including the
buffalo hunters. The Kibler shop is not perfect but they are very good. Remember
behind the scenes they are living personal lives that sometimes are challenging.
I would love one of his smoothbores or rifles--- maybe some day.

 

[oreclan]

I own a Colonial in .58 and won a Colonial in .54 . The .54 is much heavier .
Having seen the Kibler Woodsrunner , it is much shorter and lighter. It is offered in .45, .50, and .54 caliber.

 

[springfield art]

I get pie plat accuracy with two different smooth bores at 50 yards. Sometimes with a flyer. At 25 yards I can get about two-three inch groups. I’ve tried a dozen different loads and that’s the best I can get. For me 50 yards is my limit with a smooth bore. I wouldn’t even consider shooting at a deer at 80 yards. Some people will claim otherwise but I don’t want to wound a deer and lose it or for it to suffer. Maybe if I had a rear sight on either I could do better.

My standard target shooting target for everything, including modern guns, is a Pie Plate! Just the way I roll.

 

[springfield art]

.58 is a whopper stopper of a slug. It is good to review the distance of 100 yards-300 ft.
A playing card becomes a dot. Shots at 50-75 yards is realistic for iron sights. A skilled
hunter gets close to the game. I hear people talk about 300 yds with open sights but
how often would you just send a round out that will miss or maim the animal?
Assuming you can have effective energy and trajectory to make a kill out to that
range. Traditional muzzleloading hunters got within close range, including the
buffalo hunters. The Kibler shop is not perfect but they are very good. Remember
behind the scenes they are living personal lives that sometimes are challenging.
I would love one of his smoothbores or rifles--- maybe some day.

I recall clearly how 'far away' 300 yds. is! We shot human chest-up size pop-down targets with the M-14 in the Army, and it is faaaaaaar! (No scopes back then!)

 

[Coinneach]

My standard target shooting target for everything, including modern guns, is a Pie Plate! Just the way I roll.

Same for me, white cardboard disposable plates are my "friends"