well, speakin from expierence,,,don't go hammerin the blue jeans down first,,they're a **** to get out in theys too tight! jus make sure barrel is clean an dry before you load yer first round......I'd try 60 gr. 3f w/ .015 patch (I'd do spit but if ya got prelube it'll work) 3f prime an shoot! :grin: ,,,ya ain't workin fer accuracy...yer workin fer confidence, once ya get her goin off consistant, then play cloverleaf! :thumbsup: