New to me Hawken

[MedicMike3762]

Never had one but I personally feel that these old uberti hawkens are some of the nicest looking “production” hawkens if it shoots half as good as it looks you got a real prize!

On a side not out of my own curiosity, is the main spring in the lock a traditional leaf spring or a modern coil style? Looking at the face of the lock looks like a traditional leaf spring!

 

[woodsnwater]

Looks almost idinticle to my 1985 Lyman GPR.

 

[Flying B]

Never had one but I personally feel that these old uberti hawkens are some of the nicest looking “production” hawkens if it shoots half as good as it looks you got a real prize!

On a side not out of my own curiosity, is the main spring in the lock a traditional leaf spring or a modern coil style? Looking at the face of the lock looks like a traditional leaf spring!

Stole this image from the net but this is what the lock looks like.

 

[beardedhorse]

Early Ubertis were smaller than .54 bore. They weighed more than other Hawkens with 1 inch across the flats octagon barrel. Used .520 or .526 balls. Hope you can find a good mold. Most Lee and Lyman are .530 or .535. If you buy .520 pre cast round balls you will be paying more to keep that rifle running. I saw a similar rifle in a gunshop in Boulder, Co and called Log Cabin and talked to a staff member. I must have missed when Uberti changed the bore size to accommodate a .530 or .535 round ball. .015 thick patches should work with rb on top of 70 - 90 grains of 3F or 2F powder.

 

[Crockford]

My Log Cabin takes shoots a .535 very well. 7982 serial number. Nice gun! I would love to see more pictures of that shop!!!!

 

[Crockford]

Mine actually has a 1986 date code, but my Serial number is very close to yours.

 

[Flying B]

Early Ubertis were smaller than .54 bore. They weighed more than other Hawkens with 1 inch across the flats octagon barrel. Used .520 or .526 balls. Hope you can find a good mold. Most Lee and Lyman are .530 or .535. If you buy .520 pre cast round balls you will be paying more to keep that rifle running. I saw a similar rifle in a gunshop in Boulder, Co and called Log Cabin and talked to a staff member. I must have missed when Uberti changed the bore size to accommodate a .530 or .535 round ball. .015 thick patches should work with rb on top of 70 - 90 grains of 3F or 2F powder.

Thank you for the information. I ordered some .520 balls from TOTW and they ain’t cheap. I’m seeing a mold in my future.

 

[Flying B]

Mine actually has a 1986 date code, but my Serial number is very close to yours.

Here is my small shop I always am three steps from anything I need

 

[Crockford]

I could camp out in that shop for a very long time.
The .535 ball actually rolls down the barrel pretty easy. I got it out to check the serial number. I had a .535 ball out and I accidentally dropped it down the barrel. I have never dry balled a gun before. Well I can't say that anymore! I turned it upside down and beat the manure out of the barrel with no luck. It rolled in pretty easy, but doesn't seem to want to roll back out.
Good thing there is 1552 threads on here on how to get it out.

 

[Flying B]

I could camp out in that shop for a very long time.
The .535 ball actually rolls down the barrel pretty easy. I got it out to check the serial number. I had a .535 ball out and I accidentally dropped it down the barrel. I have never dry balled a gun before. Well I can't say that anymore! I turned it upside down and beat the manure out of the barrel with no luck. It rolled in pretty easy, but doesn't seem to want to roll back out.
Good thing there is 1552 threads on here on how to get it out.

I was going to suggest letting the rifle get cold but then looked it up in the internet and I would have been wrong. Metal shrinks when cold. Who would have thought? Good luck with that stuck ball

 

[Crockford]

Well gravity took it down, so turned it on it's barrel and placed it back into the gun cabinet upside-down. We will see.

You will love shooting that gun, they shoot very well and are a very well made gun. It looks like you found one that was taken care of by its previous owner. Congrats!

 

[Crockford]

I was going to suggest letting the rifle get cold but then looked it up in the internet and I would have been wrong. Metal shrinks when cold. Who would have thought? Good luck with that stuck ball

Yeah, cold usually shrinks everything! Lol

 

[OldSmoky1967]

now that there is one pretty nice gun. nice browning.
have you mic'ed the bore? asking because it is marked 54.

That version was marked .54 but bored at .520. The origianal S. Hawken they were copied from was .520 I have one of the Uberti's too.

 

[Flying B]

That version was marked .54 but bored at .520. The origianal S. Hawken they were copied from was .520 I have one of the Uberti's too.

I believe they are bored .53 This was the ad from 1984 on the rifle

 

[OldSmoky1967]

I believe they are bored .53 This was the ad from 1984 on the rifle View attachment 181570

You are right. I had not had enough coffee, yet! lol

 

[DuncNZ]

That version was marked .54 but bored at .520. The origianal S. Hawken they were copied from was .520 I have one of the Uberti's too.

As I said earlier in this thread the first production run used a .520 ball the later ones used a .530/.535 ball . I used .535in mine , in fact I was lead to believe that it was .53 bore /520 ball when I purchased it , and never got it to shoot well , it shot minute of bucket , until I tried .530 balls , and it shot minute of angle and started winning winning competitions.

I have just dug out my Dixie 2004 catalogue , they advertise both a .50 and a .54 Uberti , the .50 has .500 lands & .514 grooves
The .54 has .540 lands & .554 grooves , both are button rifled .007 deep with a 1/48 twist , the .50 uses a .490 ball & a .15 patch . the .54 uses a .530 ball & a .15 patch . The .50 weight 9½ pounds the .54 9 pounds Cost was $450 for either .
I have never seen a .50 Uberti Hawken

 

[OldSmoky1967]

As I said earlier in this thread the first production run used a .520 ball the later ones used a .530/.535 ball . I used .535in mine , in fact I was lead to believe that it was .53 bore /520 ball when I purchased it , and never got it to shoot well , it shot minute of bucket , until I tried .530 balls , and it shot minute of angle and started winning winning competitions.

I have just dug out my Dixie 2004 catalogue , they advertise both a .50 and a .54 Uberti , the .50 has .500 lands & .514 grooves
The .54 has .540 lands & .554 grooves , both are button rifled .007 deep with a 1/48 twist , the .50 uses a .490 ball & a .15 patch . the .54 uses a .530 ball & a .15 patch . The .50 weight 9½ pounds the .54 9 pounds Cost was $450 for either .
I have never seen a .50 Uberti Hawken

I hear you. Something new all of the time.... Well, here you go. Since these pics, I have replaced the tumbler screw and found an original tang sight. This on came from an 1800's Schutzen rifle. This was pre Dixie.

 

[Kabulrocks]

I just picked up one of these yesterday, I’m excited to get it. Date code is from 1979. It was either a kit or the stock has been refinished. I’ll get photos and post on a separate thread.

 

[OldSmoky1967]

I just picked up one of these yesterday, I’m excited to get it. Date code is from 1979. It was either a kit or the stock has been refinished. I’ll get photos and post on a separate thread.

Awesome! I hope you enjoy it!