Number 11 cap shortage?

[Stantheman86]

Dunham's always has them but only the non-magnum CCI #11 as of now

Caps are caps though

I don't think as many people are stocking up on caps plus people are "programmed " to look for Rem 10's for percussion revolvers

In reality, 100 rounds is a good range day and I usually only burn about 50 through a rifle, or even a revolver

I'm honestly having a harder time finding red toy caps

 

[stickmann00]

The problem with ordering caps is the HazMat shipping fee. But............

he Hazmat fee is about the biggest scam in our history

 

[64Springer]

he Hazmat fee is about the biggest scam in our history

Sure is.

It's designed to keep the little guy from shipping his spare or no longer needed powder.

Because the HazMat fee has all kinds of nonsense to go along with it. Special wrapping paper. Special labels. Has to be shipped through an approved HazMat shipper. And the one shipping has to have HazMat training.

It's a bunch of crap wrapped in B.S. stuffed into a huge cow pie.

 

[ORBushman]

It's a bunch of crap wrapped in B.S. stuffed into a huge cow pie.

Amen brother!

 

[Stantheman86]

Hazmat fee is a scam....like what UPS needs a fee to put caps and blackpowder in the back of a truck and deliver it?

All the Hazmat fee does is encourage me to get my money's worth and stock up

 

[FishDFly]

They are charging a HAMAT fee now to deliver propane to the house.

 

[TDM]

Had my propane tank here at the camp topped off in early December and noticed that extra delivery charge!!!!

 

[KDJ B10]

Various sportsman warehouse stores around the country claim they have caps.

I've had good luck ordering them online at the store they say has them and picking them up. Usually only have 1 tin in stock though. Scheels has been getting them occasionally it seems and they usually get a bunch of them at once and send them to 1 store a ways south of my area.

 

[ETipp]

I've had good luck ordering them online at the store they say has them and picking them up. Usually only have 1 tin in stock though. Scheels has been getting them occasionally it seems and they usually get a bunch of them at once and send them to 1 store a ways south of my area.

It appears I have finally found a few, for now anyway. I will say this, from now on this ole boy will be picking up supplies any time I go into a store that has them, at least a little at a time and/or until I feel I will have enough to do me for a long time. Not panic buying, just stocking up a little at a time.

 

[SLOTHEAD]

Various sportsman warehouse stores around the country claim they have caps.

I called one of the Sportsman stores a couple days ago (this one is about an hour from me by car) and they had them available, both #10 and # 11, for about the same price ($15).

 

[dylan84]

Bag up your black powder in coffee bags and pack the caps in mint tins. Problem solved. Ship all day to friends in the conus. I don't understand why anyone ever complied to that hazmat crap. Even on the industrial scale it is kind of a joke. What they are concerned about and not concerned about is surprising.

 

[wilded]

I have lucked into caps at Walmart, Bass Pro and other box sporting goods store so be sure and look if you go in these places.

 

[user 48702]

I did not know that. Turns out it might be more PC than I had thought, thanks!

They were not using the large modern 209 type primer. The early shotshell primers were about the size of a large rifle or pistol primer. The larger 209 type primer didn't come about until much later. Here are some photos of late 1800s brass and paper shotshell primers.

 

[user 48702]

Bag up your black powder in coffee bags and pack the caps in mint tins. Problem solved. Ship all day to friends in the conus. I don't understand why anyone ever complied to that hazmat crap. Even on the industrial scale it is kind of a joke. What they are concerned about and not concerned about is surprising.

HAZMAT shipping regulations wasn't something that UPS and Fedex dreamed up and pulled out of their fanny to make more money. Get caught and there's fines and possibly prison time. With the way that shippers handle/damage packages these days you stand a pretty good chance of getting caught. Without proper labeling, any package is subject to being shipped by air.

Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations (49 CFR)

*The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) enacts and enforces all hazardous materials transportation law in the United States. It has jurisdiction over all interstate, intrastate, and foreign transportation of hazardous materials on aircraft, railcars, vessels, and highway carrier and shippers in the United States. 49 CFR may be purchased from the Government Printing Office, local Government bookstores, or hazardous materials supply dealers. ** Compliance with DOT regulations is a requirement for any person who offers a hazardous materials shipment. Non-compliance with the federal HMR could result in civil or even criminal penalties by the appropriate federal agencies. For more information about the DOT’s Hazardous Materials Regulations, visit Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration.

 

[ETipp]

HAZMAT shipping regulations wasn't something that UPS and Fedex dreamed up and pulled out of their fanny to make more money. Get caught and there's fines and possibly prison time. With the way that shippers handle/damage packages these days you stand a pretty good chance of getting caught. Without proper labeling, any package is subject to being shipped by air.

Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations (49 CFR)

*The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) enacts and enforces all hazardous materials transportation law in the United States. It has jurisdiction over all interstate, intrastate, and foreign transportation of hazardous materials on aircraft, railcars, vessels, and highway carrier and shippers in the United States. 49 CFR may be purchased from the Government Printing Office, local Government bookstores, or hazardous materials supply dealers. ** Compliance with DOT regulations is a requirement for any person who offers a hazardous materials shipment. Non-compliance with the federal HMR could result in civil or even criminal penalties by the appropriate federal agencies. For more information about the DOT’s Hazardous Materials Regulations, visit Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration.

Yes sir, it is big government making the call.

 

[64Springer]

HAZMAT shipping regulations wasn't something that UPS and Fedex dreamed up and pulled out of their fanny to make more money. Get caught and there's fines and possibly prison time. With the way that shippers handle/damage packages these days you stand a pretty good chance of getting caught. Without proper labeling, any package is subject to being shipped by air.

Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations (49 CFR)

*The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) enacts and enforces all hazardous materials transportation law in the United States. It has jurisdiction over all interstate, intrastate, and foreign transportation of hazardous materials on aircraft, railcars, vessels, and highway carrier and shippers in the United States. 49 CFR may be purchased from the Government Printing Office, local Government bookstores, or hazardous materials supply dealers. ** Compliance with DOT regulations is a requirement for any person who offers a hazardous materials shipment. Non-compliance with the federal HMR could result in civil or even criminal penalties by the appropriate federal agencies. For more information about the DOT’s Hazardous Materials Regulations, visit Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration.

America should be able to ship powder and primers without this silly a** money making joke of a Hazmat fee.

Declare it...fine.

Label it...fine.

Make sure it ships by truck or train...fine.

But charging 20 to 30 bucks to make sure it doesn't go on a plane is cow pie city.

 

[user 48702]

America should be able to ship powder and primers without this silly a** money making joke of a Hazmat fee.

Declare it...fine.

Label it...fine.

Make sure it ships by truck or train...fine.

But charging 20 to 30 bucks to make sure it doesn't go on a plane is cow pie city.

I catch it both ways. I have to deal with hazmat charges and irregular container charges when I order Parkerizing solution, glues, leather dye, and solvents if a container is larger than a quart. I normally buy in 5 gallon kegs or by the gallon, 4 to the case, because in the long run it's cheaper in a bulk container.

 

[dylan84]

HAZMAT shipping regulations wasn't something that UPS and Fedex dreamed up and pulled out of their fanny to make more money. Get caught and there's fines and possibly prison time. With the way that shippers handle/damage packages these days you stand a pretty good chance of getting caught. Without proper labeling, any package is subject to being shipped by air.

Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations (49 CFR)

*The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) enacts and enforces all hazardous materials transportation law in the United States. It has jurisdiction over all interstate, intrastate, and foreign transportation of hazardous materials on aircraft, railcars, vessels, and highway carrier and shippers in the United States. 49 CFR may be purchased from the Government Printing Office, local Government bookstores, or hazardous materials supply dealers. ** Compliance with DOT regulations is a requirement for any person who offers a hazardous materials shipment. Non-compliance with the federal HMR could result in civil or even criminal penalties by the appropriate federal agencies. For more information about the DOT’s Hazardous Materials Regulations, visit Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration.

You do realize how many illegal drugs are shipped in the mail? Not saying I am going to do it but there is illegal stuff in the mail constantly! We need to start our own mountain man type shipping company. Might take a month to get it but there is no regulations!

Even if you make your own black powder the AFT says you are not supposed to transport it. Who really follows all of these laws and when is it time to stop bending to tyrannical rule? Wish we still had a constitution and the whole title 49 crap you just shared would be tossed in the trash can.

 

[Kansas Jayhawker]

I recently procured some from a scalper on GunBroker, at about 3x the normal price.

I ended up getting some Mag-Spark adaptors for shotgun primers, blasphemy, I know, but 209's can be had at a reasonable price, and can actually be found here.

 

[user 48702]

You do realize how many illegal drugs are shipped in the mail? Not saying I am going to do it but there is illegal stuff in the mail constantly! We need to start our own mountain man type shipping company. Might take a month to get it but there is no regulations!

Even if you make your own black powder the AFT says you are not supposed to transport it. Who really follows all of these laws and when is it time to stop bending to tyrannical rule? Wish we still had a constitution and the whole title 49 crap you just shared would be tossed in the trash can.

As a retired criminal investigator, I'm well aware. If one feels froggy, jump, by all means jump.