Octagon to Round

[Cattywompuss]

9 pages if someone doesn't proofread and someone else doesn't recognize the mistake as a typo or the responder misspeaking themselves.

I'll put a tenner on 14 pages with three word-for-word rehashing previous statements with quotes.

 

[Flintandsteel]

You guys are just proving the point. Let’s stay on topic.

 

[LME]

Anyone have an octagon to round Rifled gun? I'm not looking to buy one, just wondering if anyone has an actual longrifle with a octagon to round barrel. I have a .60 smoothrifle with a 1/3 octagon to round, but anyone got a grooved rifle with one? I know Sharps and Remington and so forth did it later with BPCRs, but specifically wondering if anyone has a trad longrifle with such a barrel?

I would suggest taking your existing barrel to a machinist and have him turn the barrel to your specs.. It would be a lot cheaper and you would also know your barrel will work without a hassle trying to fit the new one..

 

[Cattywompuss]

I would suggest taking your existing barrel to a machinist and have him turn the barrel to your specs.. It would be a lot cheaper and you would also know your barrel will work without a hassle trying to fit the new one..

I'm not intending to acquire an octagon to round Rifled barrel. I was just wondering if it was done historically. I have enough rifles and an octagon to round smoothrifle so not currently in need.

 

[wattlebuster]

That's interesting to me. Hopefully @wattlebuster will chime in. I'm wondering if a rifled octagon to round barrel can be had to be a drop in swap out between my current smoothbore .62 barrel and a rifled one in my Early Virginia smoothrifle

Both of my 62s are swamped octagon barrels made by Charles Burton.

 

[2 shots]

could be 100 pages if there is a ball stuck in one of the barrels

 

[JCKelly]

Ahhhh -- higher front sight?

 

[tenngun]

Curiosity. I only wanted to know if it was done 250 years ago. Not particularly interested in modern designs like TC. But round adds many disadvantages to a longrifle that isn't smoothbore. So I wanted to know if it was done.

1803 HF?

 

[Cattywompuss]

1803 HF?

That's a good point. Did the full length 1803s have half round barrels? Or just the half stocks we all know as 1803s today?

 

[William Lincoln]

wow Dave, what a masterpiece of a gun .

 

[Rudyard]

I recently ' got up' an oct to round in 45 cal. It resembles a French trade gun restocked with the rifled barrel ' it gets rid of the useless weight from the barrels .if nothing else .
Rudyard

 

[tenngun]

That's a good point. Did the full length 1803s have half round barrels? Or just the half stocks we all know as 1803s today?

Every one I ever saw was half round

 

[Cattywompuss]

Every one I ever saw was half round

I was reading up over on the American Longrifles forum a few minutes ago. Sounded like some folks were saying that the HF 1803s/1814s were half octagon only on top of the barrels, and round on the bottom(rear half of barrel) making them laterally quarter octagon? That sounds bizarre and unlikely but I guess early industrial America was a weird place.

 

[Cattywompuss]

I recently ' got up' an oct to round in 45 cal. It resembles a French trade gun restocked with the rifled barrel ' it gets rid of the useless weight from the barrels .if nothing else .
Rudyard

Is it useless? I guess it could be, but I've never thought of ballast stones as useless in a man of war. I don't like muzzle-heavy guns, but I do like balance. My best balanced gun has a tapered and flared barrel. But, I do like certain guns to point like magic wands.

 

[Cattywompuss]

My octagon to round rifle based on #19 in Rifles of Colonial America.
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Any muzzle shots?

 

[rich pierce]

Any muzzle shots?

The front sight is a blade set directly into a slot I cut into the barrel with a graver.

 

[Cattywompuss]

The front sight is a blade set directly into a slot I cut into the barrel with a graver.
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Beautiful! My smooth rifle's front sight is one of those brass turtle shaped affairs either a low blade braised or soldered on.

 

[tenngun]

Mine too.

 

[sportster73hp]

Not an hc gun but i had a Tradition Buckskinner with a short octagon to round barrel multi color laminate pistol grip stock and it was a flint gun. So weird i had to buy it, that and the guy accepted $75 for it. We are still friends.

 

[nchawkeye]

I've held an original in flintlock that was octagon to round, it balanced nicely...Their was no real reason that rifles couldn't have had round barrels, it was basically how the Germans wanted to do it, their style if you will....