I'm about to buy a .32 cal. Traditions Crockett rifle. I'll order the .310 ball and cleaning kit when I order the rifle. I already have bought some Wal-Mart pillow ticking (.017). All I need to know is what size percusion cap to buy for this thing. I'll be using pyrodex P as it's easer to get a hold of. Thanks.
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One more stupid Crockett question
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Hey Mak, unless they've changed the tip on the ramrod, the one that comes with it is practically useless. (maybe you already know that?) Hope the cleaning kit has a good ramrod with a cleaning jag.
Let us know how the gun shoots with that heavier patch on that ball. The wife's Crockett uses a .320 ball with a .010 spit patch. Shoots high 40's at 50 yds.
Yea, #11 work good too
Let us know how the gun shoots with that heavier patch on that ball. The wife's Crockett uses a .320 ball with a .010 spit patch. Shoots high 40's at 50 yds.
Yea, #11 work good too
In my opinion, the 32 is more picky about consistency in loads and swabbing between shots. And it doesn't take much wind to move that ball when shooting at 50 yds or more.
If you think you might get into deer hunting, I would go with the 50 cal. Smaller game like chucks, coyotes and such, I'd say a 40 or a 45 would be ideal for both target and hunting.
I'm sure others will weigh in with some ideas that I've overlooked. Hope this helps.
If you think you might get into deer hunting, I would go with the 50 cal. Smaller game like chucks, coyotes and such, I'd say a 40 or a 45 would be ideal for both target and hunting.
I'm sure others will weigh in with some ideas that I've overlooked. Hope this helps.
Nightwind makes some good points there and I tend to agree that for target and plinking a .45 is hard to beat. If you compare wind drift of various calibers at the same velocity, then bigger is always better, but that is not the best comparison. We tend to run the smaller balls much faster because recoil becomes objectionable if we push the big bores with heavy loads. If you compare a .32 and a .50, both loaded with 60 grains 3f, there will be little difference in wind drift because the .32 gets there so much quicker. That is so at least out to 50 yards and at 100 the difference is not so great as most folks seem to think. It is a shame that there are no mid-priced .40's and .45's. The old T/C Seneca in .36 or .45 was a nice light weight half-stock and there is nothing in that class today. :shake:
For the money, the Crockett is hard to beat.
For the money, the Crockett is hard to beat.
Pittsburghunter
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Nightwind's post troubles me because the Crockett is one rifle I own that I can shoot many shots in a row without POI changing much.
I do need to shoot it more and stop with the every time out trying different loads but I can't complain at all with how well the rifle shoots. Of course you guys have read my complaints on QC of the rifle.
I do need to shoot it more and stop with the every time out trying different loads but I can't complain at all with how well the rifle shoots. Of course you guys have read my complaints on QC of the rifle.
One thing I've noticed with my Crockett is that something seems to grab the cleaning patch at the bottom of the bore. It takes a strong tug to reverse the patch and often I find the patch torn. I'm almost inclined to think that there is a gap between the front of the plug and the shoulder in the bore. I'm tempted to pull the plug (only way to know) but hate to try as it would surely ruin that fine blue job. Anyone else notice that in their Crockett? :hmm:
A friend is using the wife's crockett for some troublesome chucks. So, without having it handy to check it out, I believe the Crockett has a patented breech and that's what your patched jag is sticking on? Seems to me, a sharp edged jag will cut round holes in the patch when you jam the jag against that breech.
That thing is a real pleasure to shoot and very accurate. But she does have to swab between every shot when competing in a match.
Also, we've introduced alot of kids and women to muzzleloading with that thing.
That thing is a real pleasure to shoot and very accurate. But she does have to swab between every shot when competing in a match.
Also, we've introduced alot of kids and women to muzzleloading with that thing.
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Joe, yes lots of people have had that problem. I ended up buying a pointed jag that bottoms out a bit higher in the bore and I make REAL SMALL patches for the bottom cleaning.
I too must add that shooting the Crockett is cheap fun.
I too must add that shooting the Crockett is cheap fun.
Joe,
I have not experienced your problem. Just
wondering how old your Crockett is? Mine is about
1 1/2 or 2 years old at the most. I was just
thinking it was an early problem that
Traditions corrected. If you bought it new, I
would definately contact Traditions and let them know of your problem. They may very well have an easy fix or fix it for you. Just a thought.
snake-eyes :hmm:
I have not experienced your problem. Just
wondering how old your Crockett is? Mine is about
1 1/2 or 2 years old at the most. I was just
thinking it was an early problem that
Traditions corrected. If you bought it new, I
would definately contact Traditions and let them know of your problem. They may very well have an easy fix or fix it for you. Just a thought.
snake-eyes :hmm:
Mine is about 3 yrs. old and I've never experienced any sticking or tearing as you mentioned. I've refinished my stock, browned the barrel, made a brass ramrod for it and replaced the sights Use .310
balls and .015 patch, spit and 3f and never clean between shots. Nice gun to have if you have other
larger guns.
balls and .015 patch, spit and 3f and never clean between shots. Nice gun to have if you have other
larger guns.
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I bought a crockett .32 a month or so ago and finaly was able to get out and shoot it this past week. Initial thoughts seem to be a good rifle. Now for the night mare!
I ran a jag with patch down the barell and promptly LOCKED the ram rod into the gun! I took it out to the shop and tried every means imaginable to free the ram rod and finaly resorted to pulling the breach plug. There is indeed an area about 3mm or so between the barell and breach that will allow the patch to turn around and lock the jag. I also think this large space is what makes the rifle shoot better with larger charges. I found charges under 20 gr shoot all over the target for my rifle. I think that this area allows the patch to leave the ball in the breach end with small powder loadings, thus ruining accuracy!
I did make a new 1/4 ram rod for this rifle and it is much easier to load.
This problem makes me think I need to use a slotted jag instead of standard cleaning jag.
I ran a jag with patch down the barell and promptly LOCKED the ram rod into the gun! I took it out to the shop and tried every means imaginable to free the ram rod and finaly resorted to pulling the breach plug. There is indeed an area about 3mm or so between the barell and breach that will allow the patch to turn around and lock the jag. I also think this large space is what makes the rifle shoot better with larger charges. I found charges under 20 gr shoot all over the target for my rifle. I think that this area allows the patch to leave the ball in the breach end with small powder loadings, thus ruining accuracy!
I did make a new 1/4 ram rod for this rifle and it is much easier to load.
This problem makes me think I need to use a slotted jag instead of standard cleaning jag.
Good to hear from someone who has pulled the plug, so to speak. It was my guess that the barrel had been threaded too deeply but your examination confirms that as fact.
I have not returned my barrel to Traditions since I am in the process of moving and a change of address would seem to introduce problems of mis-shippment. I still tend to think I might be ahead to fix it myself rather than trust to those who screwed up in the first place but sending it back may induce them to pay more attention to manufacturing errors. :grin:
I have not returned my barrel to Traditions since I am in the process of moving and a change of address would seem to introduce problems of mis-shippment. I still tend to think I might be ahead to fix it myself rather than trust to those who screwed up in the first place but sending it back may induce them to pay more attention to manufacturing errors. :grin:
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Barrel makers thread the barrels extra long, so they can be fitted exactly to each plug, which often vary a little in length. It is up to the gunmaker to remove material from the back of the barrel so that the plug seats up against the bottom of the rifling, so this kind of thing does not happen. Shame on any commercial manufacturer who lets something like this get by! I would send the gun back to the company, and demand a properly fitted barrel and plug be married to my stock. Depending on how the barrel is held to the stock. new dovetail slots have to be cut, and keyways made. Doing this after the barrel is fitted with sights can be a real costly repair.
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