Opinions of Club Butt Fowler please

[gof]

I am thinking about pulling the trigger on this... but I wanted to get some opinions *before* i make the leap...

Here is the link
[url] http://www.trackofthewolf.com...CATID=12&SUBID=81&STYLEID=284&PARTNUM=AAC-903[/url]

I am interested in its authenticity and "true to type" aspects

Thanks

GoF

 

[boar]

I am no expert, but I don't like the angle of the cock or hammer in relationship to the pan, looks to high up . Would think it would point down to bottom of pan more. But I could be wrong. The experts will know more. I only own 3 flinters out of 20 guns, but I know the lock on a flinter is the most important part, if it don't work , you are carrying a stick. Dilly

 

[Wehrmacht]

Neither am I an expert,but I concur with you about this angle. Something doesn't look exactly right.

But,etc etc, I don't like club Butt fowlers very much anyhow. We're all different,thank God,but to me a club butt fowler looks like a really ugly woman!( But maybe I'm :youcrazy: ). There doesn't seem to be much "grey area" in this.Either you love 'em,or you don't especially care for 'em. Old Ted Franklin Belue,the fellow who compiled Drapier's Notes thinks club butts are the most beautiful piece ever designed :hatsoff:

 

[Capt. Jas.]

I was also bothered by this statement.

"The 20 gauge bore is very shootable. We did note a few small dark pits about 12" down the muzzle."

 

[rich pierce]

Leonard Day is expert in the re-creation of Dutch guns from this era. I handled an identical musket at Dixon's and it was nicely finished and assembled, was light and pointed very well. I intend to get a kit and build one if I ever move back east. This is one of the best guns around for anyone portraying the early era in NY state and surrouding areas. It is highly distinctive. Very unusual to be able to find such a carefully crafted recreation of a very early gun at such a price. I recommend it, with the caveat that I have not shot it.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

I have always liked the look of a club butt piece, but this one makes me a bit (hmmn) hesitate, the lock geometry, the mention of shootable, (whatever that means) followed by pitted barrel?

 

[BCarp]

I am thinking about pulling the trigger on this... but I wanted to get some opinions *before* i make the leap...

Here is the link
[url] http://www.trackofthewolf.com...CATID=12&SUBID=81&STYLEID=284&PARTNUM=AAC-903[/url]

I am interested in its authenticity and "true to type" aspects

Thanks

GoF

I once owned one of these and was very happy with it. Passed it on to my brother and he used it happily for years in reenactments. That lock is VERY reliable!
However, you can get a new one of these for cheaper than that price. See my PM....

 

[TN.Frank]

I don't like the way the trigger isn't centered in the trigger guard, looks "funny" to me.

 

[Itegorm]

I have a very similar gun (same parts and style) that I built a couple of years ago from some of Leonrd Day's parts. I love mine, it has become one of my favorite guns. Very nice handleing, very accurate, and the parts are copied directly from some originals. There are a couple of things to keep in mind though...
1. The lock geometery is a bit different than we are used to, I use 3/4 inch (wide)flints that are then knapped down to between 3/4 and 1/2 inch long, the flints must be mounted bevel down in order to spark properly. At first I had some issues with ignition problems but after a conversation with Mr. Day and changing to the newly knapped flints it works great as long as the lock is kept clean and properly oiled.
2. I agree that the trigger in the trigger gaurd placement looks odd on this gun. I set the trigger gaurd farther forward on mine when I built it as seen here...

3. If you would like one of these early Dutchguns contact Leonard Day directly, his finished guns go for about $150.00 less than the one on the TOW site and if you have any gun building experience at all you could go with a kit gun that will build up very quickly (mine took less than 20 hours total).
Leonard Day is a great guy to deal with. If you are interested in his guns give him a call, you can find his contact info in our vendors site information on the forum.

 

[blacksmithshoppe]

I like them, and yes it dose look like the angle of the cock is a little off and the trigger in the guard thing may/could a problem is hunting with gloves but the price is right, I say go for it.
Jeff :hatsoff:

 

[Teleoceras]

I have to agree the others about Leonard Day. I own one of his Dutch Club Butt Doglock's and Helga is one sweet shooting gun!

FYI, my Doglock was about $900 (shipping included) when I ordered direct from Leonard Day. The man is great to talk to and will help you out.

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[xia_emperor]

I can't find his contact info in there.

 

[TN.Frank]

Personally, now that I own two Jackie Browns I'd much rather have one of them then this gun. Check out his web site, he's always got something for sale, you'll be glad that you did. :thumbsup: [url] http://www.jackiebrowngunmaker.com[/url]/

 

[Teleoceras]

Longbow:

I can't find his contact info in there.

Leonard Day has no website but his contact info is as follows:

Leonard Day & Sons, Inc
3 Kings Highway
Westhampton, MA 01088
Phone # (413) 527-9627
Shop# (413)-527-0184.

This is also a Snaphaunce Musket that he built for me. The lock was originally from ASA. Leonard tweeked it and built the musket around the lock. I really recommend his work! :bow: :bow:

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[xia_emperor]

very nice thanks!

 

[xia_emperor]

I am a New Englander. so I woul rather not have a southern smoother bore.

 

[Teleoceras]

Longbow:

I am a New Englander. so I woul rather not have a southern smoother bore.

That was one of my points when Leonard Day built Helga and Olga for me. Both had to fit in with the arms that would have been present when the Dutch ruled the New Netherlands colony (New York State).

I am still waiting for Mr. Day to build a Wheellock that I had also ordered from him.

Good luck with what ever you do order!

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