OUT OF SIGHT

[flashpoint]

A 6 o'clock hold is with the top of the front sight at the bottom of the bull where the 6 is on a clock face. Aiming at the center of the bull with the top of the front sight is called a center hold. Hope this helps.

A 6 o'clock hold is with the top of the front sight at the bottom of the bull where the 6 is on a clock face. Aiming at the center of the bull with the top of the front sight is called a center hold. Hope this helps.

It does. Thanks SmokepoleSam

 

[Grenadier1758]

HI Sam. Finally took a photo. The gun has been shooting to the right,

In the picture, the sight appears to off set from the center line of the barrel. How is the rear sight located on the barrel?

The sight adjustment procedure calls for moving the front sight in the opposite direction of where you want the impact to move. The front sight would have to move more to the right or the rear sight needs to move to the left.

 

[smo]

In the pic the sight seems off too the shooters right...
It appears to show a punch mark on the left side of the sight as well.

I would see where the rifle shoots at 50 yards ...
Sometimes at 25 yards you can’t see much movement on paper when moving the sights in small increments.

 

[SamTex1949]

Ok , 2 others seem to see same as I do that the front sight appears slight off ( so slightly) and if the rear sight is off too then shot impact will definitely be effected ! Are you happy with that thick front sight ? may consider replacing with a slightly thinner one in silver or brass too.

 

[flashpoint]

Ok , 2 others seem to see same as I do that the front sight appears slight off ( so slightly) and if the rear sight is off too then shot impact will definitely be effected ! Are you happy with that thick front sight ? may consider replacing with a slightly thinner one in silver or brass too.

Thanks SamTex. Yes I do agree it is off slightly. I actually am not happy with the thickness of the front. sight and have been thinking of a thinner one also. I need to find one that fits a .45 Seneca.

 

[flashpoint]

In the picture, the sight appears to off set from the center line of the barrel. How is the rear sight located on the barrel?

The sight adjustment procedure calls for moving the front sight in the opposite direction of where you want the impact to move. The front sight would have to move more to the right or the rear sight needs to move to the left.

THanks Grenadier. Because it is shooting to the right then I should move the front sight to the left. Correct?

 

[Old Hawkeye]

THanks Grenadier. Because it is shooting to the right then I should move the front sight to the left. Correct?

No! You need to move the front sight to the right to move point of impact to the left. You would move your REAR sight to the left to move POI left. Just remember, FORS! Front sight OPPOSITE, Rear sight SAME regarding what direction you want your POI to move.

 

[Grenadier1758]

Old Hawkeye has it correct.

 

[flashpoint]

Got it guys. I will be tattooing it on my forehead Will let you see the results.

 

[Silent Walker]

Before touching the front or rear sight, is he using patched round ball... if so, maybe his patches are not thick enough... if not yes at 25 yards you can have spread. Load development is another area not discussed, but keep it at 25 until you get a nice tight group.

 

[flashpoint]

Was wondering, he shoots a .440 PRB with .018 patches. It sometimes is pretty tight to load especially after shooting a bit with the barrel fouled although he does wipe between shots. He does have some .445 balls but is concerned that using them with a .018 patch would be super tight in the .45. If he went with a thinner patch .015 to load the larger ball, wouldn't that be the same as the .440 with an .018 patch only in reverse? Thanks.

 

[renegadehunter]

A .445 RB with an .015" patch will result in a .002" tighter combo than the .440 RB and .018" patch.
The .445 RB is .005" bigger than the .440 RB, but the .015" patch is only .003" thinner than the .018" patch.
But heck, it may like a .445 RB with a .010" patch. That's the fun of these things, all the load development to find what it really likes the best.

 

[Zonie]

The way I figure it, a .445 diameter ball patched with a .015 thick patch equals, .445 + .015 on one side of the ball + .015 on the other side of the ball = .475

A .440 diameter ball patched with a .018 thick patch equals, .440 + .018 on one side of the ball + .018 on the other side of the ball = .476

That makes for a difference of .001".

 

[wb78963]

sight radius in inches divided by the range in inches will equal the amount of movement of the sight to move the impact one inch.
A 50 yards (1800 inches) range and 36 inch sight radius then (36 divided by 1800) equals .02 inches that will move the impact one inch.
Bunk

 

[flashpoint]

I think using the .445 with a .010 or a 015 patch is worth a try to see what happens.

 

[wb78963]

shooting zero is a two step process first precision, and then accuracy.
First strive for the smallest group at a desired distance balancing powder, ball, patch and shooter and that is precision.
Then by moving the sights move the group to the center point of aim and that is accuracy.
Jiggering with the sights before the rifle, powder, ball, patch and shooter achieve precision is a waste of time and components.
At least a wise old long range shooter beat into my head and so Ipass it on for what it is worth
Hit Center
Bunk
..

 

[flashpoint]

shooting zero is a two step process first precision, and then accuracy.
First strive for the smallest group at a desired distance balancing powder, ball, patch and shooter and that is precision.
Then by moving the sights move the group to the center point of aim and that is accuracy.
Jiggering with the sights before the rifle, powder, ball, patch and shooter achieve precision is a waste of time and components.
At least a wise old long range shooter beat into my head and so Ipass it on for what it is worth
Hit Center
Bunk
..

Thanks wb. It's worth a lot and I appreciate it .

 

[flashpoint]

Been looking for the .015 dry pillow ticking patches to try with a .425 RB. Can't find them. Most are from .40 to 49. caliber which measures .018. Track's dry pillow ticking patches are all .018 the .015 are cotton. Midway also has the cotton ones but in reading the reviews, some measure .012 and others in the pack measure .015. Any suggestions? Thanks. Flashpoint

 

[renegadehunter]

CVA sells 100 packs of pillow ticking advertised as .015" thickness. They measure .0155 for me when I squeeze my calipers good and tight.
I think you're better off to go to a Joanne's or similiar, ask for their pillow ticking stock location, and then get your calipers out. Best way to get exactly what you want.

 

[flashpoint]

CVA sells 100 packs of pillow ticking advertised as .015" thickness. They measure .0155 for me when I squeeze my calipers good and tight.
I think you're better off to go to a Joanne's or similiar, ask for their pillow ticking stock location, and then get your calipers out. Best way to get exactly what you want.

Thanks for the suggestion. Joanne's is just about 5 miles from me.