Outside of the ROA, who makes the strongest

[bigbore442001]

cap and ball revolver today? I know that the Rugers will be available on the used market but I am curious as to who makes the strongest and most durable one?

 

[Rebel]

I like the Pietta and Uberti '58 Remingtons. They hold up well even with heavy charges. And shoot as well as the Old Army.

 

[plumberroy]

cap and ball revolver today? I know that the Rugers will be available on the used market but I am curious as to who makes the strongest and most durable one?

Ruger discontinued the cap and ball revolver so I look for the price to sky rocket for used ones

 

[oldwolf]

I am glad I went crazy last year and bought two at once. :youcrazy:

 

[Wes/Tex]

Rebel is right, the Remington is a bit stronger than the Colt types due to the top strap. Having said that, I don't have a single one any more. Just like the feel of the Colts better, especially in my small hand. Also like to shoot a bunch before having to take down and clean to keep going...just call me lazy! :haha:

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

I've got Colts that are 40 years old and still going strong after heavy use. The idea that their open tops are weak is not really accurate considering that folks are still shooting originals 140+ years later. And I expect that any of the Dragoon models are stronger than a Remington Army model. Whatever you buy will, with proper care, outlast a few generations to come.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

Somewhere, I have seen a Italian C&B which at first glance looks like the Colt 1873 S.A. Army, but it is percussion.

 

[mykeal]

Somewhere, I have seen a Italian C&B which at first glance looks like the Colt 1873 S.A. Army, but it is percussion.

Here's one. It's a Uberti; they call it a "Cattleman". It's essentially an 1873 SAA with a percussion cylinder. It is not intended as a replica of any historical gun; it's made for the European market where possession of a cartridge revolver is illegal. The ejector rod is completely functional and, of course, completely useless. The cylinder must be removed and loaded with a loading stand as there is no loading lever. And no, it's not possible to convert it to a cartridge revolver by changing cylinders - the hammer face is offset to match an offset opening in the frame and the cylinder is also offset to match. A cartridge cylinder will fit but the hammer will not strike the cartridge.

This gun is no competition for a Ruger Old Army. It's pretty but a PITA to load and shoot. The worst gun I've ever had for jamming due to spent caps. Accurate, nicely balanced, fills the hand well and points nicely. But the cap jamming and loading problems are a real bummer.

 

[No Grease]

If a person wanted to they could tidy up the hammer, frame area and make it a cartridge weapon. The time and effort will probably not make it worth it though. :thumbsup:

 

[mykeal]

Absolutely not worth it, at least here in the USA. And overseas getting ammunition would be a problem, I imagine.

 

[Dave Rosenthal]

mykeal,

I had looked at one of these a while back when I was considering buying an 1858 Remington New Model Army with the cartridge cylinder conversion. Fit & finish seemed great--sorry to hear about the cap problem!

It's a nice looking revolver.

Dave

 

[mykeal]

It's a beautiful gun. I had a holster custom made for it, plus pouches to carry two loaded cylinders (without caps). Only my Walker gets the same amount of oohs and aahs at the range.

Until I shoot them...

 

[rleete1948]

As a gun smith it would not be much of a problem to convert to a cartridge as long as the chamber lines up with barrel all it would take is a modification of the hammer to replace the present firing pin with a centered one or buying an extra hammer and modify it would there be any other modification needed? :thumbsup:

 

[rleete1948]

would you like to sell it :grin:

 

[50cal.cliff]

Just recieved a 2007 catalog from Ruger in December. As far as I know they have not discontinued there BP Relvers. What they carry is as follows. :wink:
They still are carring the Ruger Old Army BS5F/.45 Cal, Rosewood grips, Blue steel,
5 1/2"barrel, $595.00.
As well as the Ruger Stainless Old Army,
KBP-7/.45 Cal. Satin Stainless, Rosewood grips,
7 1/2" barrel, w/adj. sights, $635.00.
Also carry KBP-5FI, 45 cal., Gloss Stainless, Simulated Ivory grips, 5 1/2" barrel $685.00
The prices seem kind of pricy but, what isn't these days. Preowned may be a better deal.
I will say this the Ruger I own I will put up against any for dependable, and there warranty is fantastic.

 

[50cal.cliff]

cap and ball revolver today? I know that the Rugers will be available on the used market but I am curious as to who makes the strongest and most durable one?

Ruger discontinued the cap and ball revolver so I look for the price to sky rocket for used ones

Sorry for Double Post

 

[TFoley]

Dear Mr TANSTAAFL - you are partly right. It is actually made for the UK market, where modern cartridge-firing handguns are banned in England, Scotland and Wales [the big island of Great Britain], but NOT in Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man, or the Channel Islands. In all of Europe, only UK has such a ban on cartridge-firing weapons of this kind.

But then, as anyone here will tell you, the UK is not deemed to be part of Europe.

And it truly IS a pain to reload, which is why a loading press is provided for that purpose.

tac, back from Oregon

 

[TFoley]

Dear Mr Poke - where YOU love it is prolly easy to do.

Here in yUK it will get you five to ten.

tac

 

[mykeal]

As a gun smith it would not be much of a problem to convert to a cartridge as long as the chamber lines up with barrel all it would take is a modification of the hammer to replace the present firing pin with a centered one or buying an extra hammer and modify it would there be any other modification needed? :thumbsup:

Like the nipples are offset to the right, so are the chambers, and, of course, the barrel, thus the cartridge cylinder chambers do not align with the forcing cone. I don't have a picture of that; if I can figure out how to take one I'll post it.

Reworking the gun to fire cartridges would be a major undertaking, which is what was intended.

And no, it's not for sale.

 

[LRB]

BATF would also frown on that, unless you registered it with them.