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Hi folks have caught some online talk of using an additional patch or wad under a patched ball to cushion and protect it. Is anyone doing that if so has there been improved accuracy or other benefits?

Thanks
I was having trouble with the main patch getting burnt. I started using an over the powder patch, now the patches come out good enough to reuse. It seems to help with accuracy.
 
I have had over powder wad help on accuracy, yet it is still in the air whether I was doing everything right. We were getting torn patches and started lubing patches more and that corrected the problem. Weather permitting I will further my experiment tomorrow.
 
Hi folks have caught some online talk of using an additional patch or wad under a patched ball to cushion and protect it. Is anyone doing that if so has there been improved accuracy or other benefits?

Thanks
My presumption would be it provides a better gas seal than just a patched round ball. Same reason I put some cornmeal in in between my powder and prb.

Here’s 5 shots at 50 yds with my .58

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I use an over powder wad during the deer season when my rifle may stay loaded for several days to may be weeks, if I am unfortunate not to get a shot at a deer. The over powder wad helps to keep the powder from being contaminated by the lube on the patch.
 
I do not use an over-powder patch or wad. That being said, I can see no reason NOT to try it and see if accuracy and/or ease of loading is affected.

Looks like another project once my 54 WoodsRunner is finished...
 
Hi folks have caught some online talk of using an additional patch or wad under a patched ball to cushion and protect it. Is anyone doing that if so has there been improved accuracy or other benefits?

Thanks
Been using an over powder patch for five decades, works great for me. While not necessary in all my rifles, I can spare a 7 cent patch per shot to insure accuracy. I start my over powder patch with my short starter, and then ram it down the rest of the way with the ball. If I shoot 50 shots, it costs me three and a half bucks extra, an exceedingly small price to pay to protect the patch that actually engages the rifling. I shoot over chronographs extensively, and an over powder patch/wad results in less fps variation in my rifles.
 
I have tried this with a few of my rifles, testing for both accuracy/precision, or MV differences and have seen no material differences using additional over-powder discs or wads. . I use Ox-Yoke patches and TOTW Mink Oil Lube with LRB’s in my rifles. 58 cal. Kibler Colonial and 50 cal. Hubbard, bench rest.
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