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Pedersoli or Traditions flintlock for a first rock lock?

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Capnball

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I'm ready to pull the trigger (punn intended) on either. I'd be interested in your opinions and experience with either. Before you guys start recommending a hand made, to my specifications, gun builders work of art, let me just slow your roll. I have a VERY limited budget! If there is another choice for a first flintlock in the same general price range, by all means, weigh in. I'd be interested in new or used. Minor repairs are fine, I'm not looking for another long project. I love traditional looking pieces with a rifled barrel, wood stock, brass accents. .45-.50 Cal. Thanks in advance!
 
Im no stranger to black powder. I've resurrected an original 1861 percussion. I wish I could afford a revolutionary war piece (1760 to 1770s PA, Kentucky or Tennessee built rifles) but anything presentable and in working order is incredibly expensive.
 
I too agree with Flinter.The one Tom posted I thought would be out of your price range.But if not,go for it if that is what you desire.
 
I too agree with Flinter.The one Tom posted I thought would be out of your price range.But if not,go for it if that is what you desire.
No, it's right in there. Thanks for the heads up. I've already sent a note. There's just enough left to do on that gun to make it my own. I love the detailing and finishing.
 
You can piece together a good working flintlock. Get a Renegade or Hawken stock with hardware or a CVA stock with hardware on ebay or elsewhere. I see some anywhere in the $80-$170 range. There are a few flintlock barrels used from $75-$250, and an L&R lock at $185 brand new. If you paid top dollar for each piece you'd be at $605. Some of the CVA or Traditions parts can be found new at Deer Creek Products. If you like it and get it shooting right you can always refinish the wood, metal and barrel finish, change sights, etc. to make it work for your needs.
 
I like Traditions but I am going to throw in a but. I used to live in CT and could stop by there and get there display guns and pick up accessories whenever in town. I own a Traditions Mountain rifle in percussion (and a few of the unmentionables, I think because Traditions is in CT all the clubs give away Traditions ML as door and raffle prizes my Dad and I have owned quite o few of the unmentionables) and absolutely love it. I wanted to get a flinter and looked at their Pennsylvania rifle, I really wanted to like it.... Great looking rifle, but I found that with the stock geometry I couldn't get my head down on the stock and look through the sights. I ended up with a Pedersoli/Cabelas Blue Ridge for my first flintlock. I just got it and I haven't even shot it yet but the quality is there. I wanted a "longrifle" flintlock so I didn't even look at the Hawken style flintlocks by Traditions.
 
You can piece together a good working flintlock. Get a Renegade or Hawken stock with hardware or a CVA stock with hardware on ebay or elsewhere. I see some anywhere in the $80-$170 range. There are a few flintlock barrels used from $75-$250, and an L&R lock at $185 brand new. If you paid top dollar for each piece you'd be at $605. Some of the CVA or Traditions parts can be found new at Deer Creek Products. If you like it and get it shooting right you can always refinish the wood, metal and barrel finish, change sights, etc. to make it work for your needs.
That was an idea I played around with. But I think I like shooting the gun more then I like building them. I have the tools and the know how. I resurrected an original 1861 percussion. (That build is posted elsewhere on this forum) it was a great experience and I might just do a nice Hawkins .50 kit or something down the road. I just have too many irons in the fire now.
 
I like Traditions but I am going to throw in a but. I used to live in CT and could stop by there and get there display guns and pick up accessories whenever in town. I own a Traditions Mountain rifle in percussion (and a few of the unmentionables, I think because Traditions is in CT all the clubs give away Traditions ML as door and raffle prizes my Dad and I have owned quite o few of the unmentionables) and absolutely love it. I wanted to get a flinter and looked at their Pennsylvania rifle, I really wanted to like it.... Great looking rifle, but I found that with the stock geometry I couldn't get my head down on the stock and look through the sights. I ended up with a Pedersoli/Cabelas Blue Ridge for my first flintlock. I just got it and I haven't even shot it yet but the quality is there. I wanted a "longrifle" flintlock so I didn't even look at the Hawken style flintlocks by Traditions.
The traditions is a beautiful gun but you're like the third guy who's said they couldn't get their head low enough to use the sites. That's unfortunate. The Pedersoli looks and feels great. I shouldered one at Cabela's. It was my first choice. I guess you could always add embellishments.
 
I really like Traditions, the people are great when you go there and very helpful and friendly. Like I said I love my percussion mountain rifle. I really wanted to like the Pennsylvania but for me I couldn't get my head down low enough to get behind the sight. The quality seemed fine, I know from here the lock is supposed to be small and its not super historic but it does look good.... for me it was a no go and I am glad I had a chance to handle it before I bought it. I have the Blue ridge in .54 and hopefully if the weather cooperates I'll shoot it for the first time next week and get a range report up.
 
Between those two choices I would go with a Pedersoli Frontier or Blue Ridge. I have one and it sparks good and is reliable. Greg
 
I really like Traditions, the people are great when you go there and very helpful and friendly. Like I said I love my percussion mountain rifle. I really wanted to like the Pennsylvania but for me I couldn't get my head down low enough to get behind the sight. The quality seemed fine, I know from here the lock is supposed to be small and its not super historic but it does look good.... for me it was a no go and I am glad I had a chance to handle it before I bought it. I have the Blue ridge in .54 and hopefully if the weather cooperates I'll shoot it for the first time next week and get a range report up.
That seems to be the overwhelming complaint with the gun. I have a severe case of BFH syndrome so I don't need anything that requires a narrow cranium to aim it. (BFH= Big Friggen Head)
 
0E274D81-459D-4E07-849A-4C629EFB967F.jpeg B9DB94EB-6FC1-48A9-8151-60C7EA3656DD.jpeg A42EED86-EAC3-45A1-AEB4-1A106F48B54C.jpeg Pedersoli Blue Ridge is pretty much ready to shoot right out of the box. Course you have to work up a load and sight it in.

They’re extremely reliable and accurate. Very Big Bang for the buck. You won’t break the bank buying one either. It too is well within your price range, NIB.

I have a .54 that I’ve taken several matches with. Lock really showers spark’s and is easy on flint’s. Triggers are descent as well.

For a .50 barrel is 1:48 twist.

For a .54 barrel is 1:65 twist.

The .54 weighs in at around 7 1/2 pounds. The .50 is just a hair heavier? Both have 39” barrel’s.

Respectfully, Cowboy
 
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View attachment 23647 View attachment 23648 View attachment 23649 Pedersoli Blue Ridge is pretty much ready to shoot right out of the box. Course you have to work up a load and sight it in.

They’re extremely reliable and accurate. Very Big Bang for the buck. You won’t break the bank buying one either. It too is well within your price range, NIB.

I have a .54 that I’ve taken several matches with. Lock really showers spark’s and is easy on flint’s. Triggers are descent as well.

For a .50 barrel is 1:48 twist.

For a .54 barrel is 1:65 twist.

The .54 weighs in at around 7 1/2 pounds. The .50 is just a hair heavier? Both have 39” barrel’s.

Respectfully, Cowboy


Thanks Cowboy, I cut a deal with another forum member for a very nice unused Pedersoli Kentucky rifle. Everytime I see another Pedersoli I like them more. Even with a little age they still look great, maybe even better!
Thanks again, Neil
 
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