Position of flash hole

[Mike Brooks]

Although I wouldn't place the touch hole in those positions all of them ought to work fine. I'd probably replace them with Chambers whit lightnin' liners pronto.

 

[jamesthomas]

Stumpkiller,thats a real pretty rifle ya have there!

 

[Stumpkiller]

Stumpkiller,thats a real pretty rifle ya have there!

Thankee.

That's my Cherry Girl.

You can see more pictures of here here under "Classic Lehigh Longrifle"
http://www.donelsoncustommuzzleloaders.com/longarms.html

 

[hockeyref]

FWIW here is where Patience wound up having her flash hole located... she went bang with a couple flashes... I could shim everything up a bit but I'll see how she shoots first... Mine's from a GPR kit so it's up to me to fix it or live with it.

 

[ebiggs1]

That is one whole heck of a lot better than my $600 TC factory rifle is.

 

[hockeyref]

It was dead center until I bent the tang to match the stock inlet. It doesn't need to move much, and I coud do it by getting creative - maybe just make a shim for between the tang and barrel and refit the hook on the end of the barrel... Or I could put a weld bead on the tang face and refit it for a better finish. I'll decide if it's worth the effort after I've shot it a while.

I did use a ball tip bit in my dremel to sorta cone the outside of the hole. Would like to get an aftermarket liner, but don't wanna re-thread the hole.

 

[Dphar]

Its not the location thats causing a problem.
Location is not that critical.
Though I would not want one like that in the 1st photo in this thread.
So far as the vent being off center... What do you expect of what is, all protestations to the contrary not withstanding, an entry level rifle?
How did it happen? Someone probably failed to put the breech in the fixture properly and it just went on through anyway. Nobody cared.

Dan

 

[jethro224]

What do you expect of what is, all protestations to the contrary not withstanding, an entry level rifle?

... Nobody cared.

For a $600 rifle I expect an accurate, solid, and reliable shooter! A rifle that will give me good service for the rest of my life. And I expect the manufacturer to care!
Anything less is :bull: :bull: :bull:

:2

 

[fyrfyter43]

Would like to get an aftermarket liner, but don't wanna re-thread the hole.

You can get an RMC vent liner that won't require you to re-thread. I have one in my GPR and it's a significant improvement over the factory liner.

 

[Mike Brooks]

What do you expect of what is, all protestations to the contrary not withstanding, an entry level rifle?

... Nobody cared.

For a $600 rifle I expect an accurate, solid, and reliable shooter! A rifle that will give me good service for the rest of my life. And I expect the manufacturer to care!
Anything less is :bull: :bull: :bull:

:2

:haha: I put a couple hundred more than $600 just in parts when I build a gun. As always, you get exactly what you pay for.

 

[jethro224]

:haha: I put a couple hundred more than $600 just in parts when I build a gun. As always, you get exactly what you pay for.

We all know that Mike. If I were to have you build a gun for me I would expect it to cost considerably more than $600. I would also expect it to have MUCH better fit and finish than a T/C, MUCH better wood, and it would be a hand-made work of art. These things do not come free.

We are talking about "an entry level rifle" here, NOT a custom build. Apples and oranges. I would expect Mossberg 500/ Remington 870 type quality, NOT Mike Brooks type quality. Accurate, solid, and reliable shooter, not beautiful or HC.

 

[jan buck]

Amen. and i agree. that rifle should never have gotten through Q.C.

 

:haha: I put a couple hundred more than $600 just in parts when I build a gun. As always, you get exactly what you pay for.

Thanks for the reminder. Give yourself a hand. :applause: :haha:

 

[Dphar]

Mike's point, and mine, is "how do you build a rifle complete ready to shoot for 600 when the retail in the parts for a good gun is 600-800?" I am looking at paying 500 maybe more JUST FOR A ML BARREL for a hunting rifle probably with no threads much less a breech, IF I can talk the guy into making it.
Premium cut rifled barrels for modern high powers run 300 and up, no threads, no chamber just contoured, 5-600 for complex ones as for a Garand.
Yet folks here think they will get a quality ML for 600??? You are living in la-la land. They stick these things together, box em and ship em.

Then they are bought in some chain store in many cases with salemen who are clueless and then buyers are upset when they are not perfect or don't work right when they are paying 1/3 what a good shop made "working gun" grade ML is worth in parts and labor.
The old saying of you get what you pay for is true.
A factory made 44 mag revolver by S&W lists for about 1000 bucks for Pete's sake. And THEY have some cast parts.

Dan

 

[jethro224]

Well Dan, first you'd quit wanting "Premium" everything, stop ordering custom made barrels, use a plain piece of wood...

Having a functional part installed in the correct place would go a long way toward quality. No one expects a nice, custom gun for factory prices. They do deserve one that is put together right.

 

[ebiggs1]

My goodness here! No one buys handmade goods these days. People buy particular hand made items but I would wager 99% of all goods are assembly line, factory made items. I would love to have a beautiful hand made flintlock and I may some day.
Why don’t you get a hand made automobile, you could, or a hand made violin, it’s possible. I have several center fire assembly line factory made rifles and they all function perfectly. I got my Remington Woodsmaster in 1958 and it is as good as good can be. Is it not reasonable to expect a factory made gun to function and be serviceable?
We will see how TC responds and I will post it here as soon as I find out.

 

[roundball]

ebiggs, some people are just elitists...and its worse on public websites where some people hide behind distant keyboards attempting to "lord" their opinions over everybody else.

Your rifle situation was obviously a factory "QC escape"...unfortunately it happens, rarely, but it happens in all manufacturing...even custom muzzleloaders and in many cases it gets hidden/covered up.

At least T/C stands up and publicly supports their product lines and wouldn't have built the solid 40 year reputation it has by turning out shoddy products on a regular basis...IMO T/C has done more to keep alive muzzleloading in America's population than custom muzzleloader builders could ever dream of.

You're doing the right thing and T/C will stand behind the faux paux...

 

ebiggs, some people are just elitists...and its worse on public websites where some people hide behind distant keyboards attempting to "lord" their opinions over everybody else.

Why do you continually take cheap shots at people, rather than being a man and confront them directly with your objection? This adds nothing to the dialog and it makes you look bad.

 

[roundball]

Because it was a philosophical statement about human nature in general as a show of support for a member who's had some questionable comments made about his choice of Flintlock.

By the same token, if you have positive comments to make in this thread, please make them.

 

Because it was a philosophical statement about human nature in general as a show of support for a member who's had some questionable comments made about his choice of Flintlock.

By the same token, if you have positive comments to make in this thread, please make them.

Constructive criticism is always positive, but some get defensive when they hear it.

I see no further need to criticize you, you're doing a fine job on your own. :wink: