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I started making reproductions of historical ball bags. Here is my first one. I have several others in the pipeline. I'm making them true to size. Haven't decided if I'm gonna make them for sale. It would be easy to adjust the scale of the spout for custom orders. This reproduction is for .75 cal balls, but I could easily change the size for .50 cal balls.

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I am surprised that very few of the historical ball bags had straps to hang on the belt or around one's neck. Almost all of the ball bags were carried in the shooting bag.
On the belt or neck means more stuff bouncing around when moving. They also commonly wore jackets or coats and made use of the pockets.
 
I made another version of the same ball tube as above. This is actually the third version.

When I was nearly done with the first version, I didn't know how to close the bottom of the tube. So I just stitched across the bottom. It looked terrible.

The second version above has a circular wood plug in the bottom. But it is just a straight tube, and I didn't like it. It didn't look quite correct. It looks like a damn cigar.

This is the third version. The circumference on the bottom of the tube is a 1/4-inch wider than the top, so it has the same subtle taper as the historical version. When I make another one, I'll expand the difference to 5/16 or 3/8-inches. The turned Maple stopper has a coned transition between the stem and the top, so it gives the top of the ball tube a nice flare. The stopper rests in a deep conical hole in the throat. All in all, I am very pleased with this one. It took only about an hour-and-a-half to make.

I made it from 5-6 oz. veg tan. After dyeing and sewing, I soaked the ball tube in water and then carefully hardened the leather with a heat gun. I left the stopper in place so that the leather shrunk around the stopper. But then I couldn't remove the stopper. You might be able to see my teeth marks on the stopper, I finally got it out. The leather will stretch with time.

I discovered that the top of the stopper, where you grip it with you fingers, has to have vertical, parallel sides. Otherwise you can't grab it with your teeth. If you try to bite a stopper with sloped faces, your teeth just rake off the wood.

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I see what you mean about the one having a cigar shape, but I appreciate it. Creating that taper on your third iteration led to a very nice piece! I'm not proficient in working with leather, but you're sure trying to motivate me.
How thick/heavy is the leather used for the tube?
 
I started making reproductions of historical ball bags. Here is my first one. I have several others in the pipeline. I'm making them true to size. Haven't decided if I'm gonna make them for sale. It would be easy to adjust the scale of the spout for custom orders. This reproduction is for .75 cal balls, but I could easily change the size for .50 cal balls.

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Very nice work
 
This is a colonial shot bag, ca. 1760-1770. The original was found with a medley of shot sizes still in the pouch.

The entire pouch is leather. The spout is a tube of thick leather (7-8 oz.), 1-1/8 inches in diameter.

It was a real bugger trying to figure out how to sew the bag onto the spout, since the spout leather is so thick. But in a EUREKA! moment I figured out a simple and easy way to do it.

The bag was a single piece of leather, kinda heart-shaped, folded over and whip stitched, like the original.

The stopper is carved from White Pine, like the original.

7 inches long (without the stopper), 4 inches wide.

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Did you lay out the spout leather and drive all the holes in with a tack and tack hammer? That is thick stuff?
The sewing on of the lower piece must have been difficult.
 
Did you lay out the spout leather and drive all the holes in with a tack and tack hammer? That is thick stuff?
The sewing on of the lower piece must have been difficult.
I always use a stitching chisel to make the holes. Depending on the curve of the edge, I use a chisel with one, two, three, five, or ten forks.

Sewing the bag was easy. I chiseled the holes all the way around both edges, and then it was a simple single-needle whip stitch.

I don't use a tack hammer, I made a set of tooling mauls for my own use. When I made the smaller maul, I recessed the nuts. The wood is a combination of Maple, Ash, Manzanita, Plum, Walnut, and Redwood. The heads are ultra-high density polyethylene.


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