Restore A Flintlock Pistol

[Tumbler]

The following pictures are of the John Manton pistol I conserved. Everything is reproduction except for the pistol.

 

[Tumbler]

Can anyone identify these items for me?

 

[Tumbler]

This is the Joseph Manton set I used as a guide. The pan brush is a reproduction. As far as I know everything else is original.

 

[Grenadier1758]

Can anyone identify these items for me?

I'll start.

From the left
Stainless steel working rod for loading and cleaning.
Drop tube to deliver the powder directly to the breech without touching the barrel.
Volumetric powder measure with cut off funnel.
??? Could be a short starter but the shaft seems very small in diameter.

By the way, your box and the accessories look very nice.

 

[Davey Boy]

I am impressed with the screw slots. It is really easy to twist a screw driver and mangle the screw.

To lay hands on a museum quality gun is more balls than I got.

The plexiglass rack has got to go. Would rather see if laid out in a white tablecloth.

The pictures were very important but if the photo file size was larger so I could zoom in that would be better.

Are you sure the screw slots orientation would have been any direction of the compass. I've worked on yachts that had the head of every screw lined up fore and aft. I kind of think if it had a platinum lined touch hole the screw slots would be extremely important.

I expect the experience of doing work on a pistol like this one is an accomplishment.


Congratulations on your work Tumbler.

 

[Tumbler]

I'll start.

From the left
Stainless steel working rod for loading and cleaning.
Drop tube to deliver the powder directly to the breech without touching the barrel.
Volumetric powder measure with cut off funnel.
??? Could be a short starter but the shaft seems very small in diameter.

By the way, your box and the accessories look very nice.

Thanks!

 

[Tumbler]

I am impressed with the screw slots. It is really easy to twist a screw driver and mangle the screw.

To lay hands on a museum quality gun is more balls than I got.

The plexiglass rack has got to go. Would rather see if laid out in a white tablecloth.

The pictures were very important but if the photo file size was larger so I could zoom in that would be better.

Are you sure the screw slots orientation would have been any direction of the compass. I've worked on yachts that had the head of every screw lined up fore and aft. I kind of think if it had a platinum lined touch hole the screw slots would be extremely important.

I expect the experience of doing work on a pistol like this one is an accomplishment.


Congratulations on your work Tumbler.

Thanks! Sorry for the plexi and file size. It would make sense that with all the craftsmanship that was done the screws would have an orientation as you suggest. Both the John and Joseph Manton pistols have no respect for direction. That is not to say that other Manton pistols do have a proper screw orientation.

 

[Eterry]

What the Deuce... no racing stripes???


Great looking Manton!

 

[Davey Boy]

I would load it and shoot it.

What kind of rust prevention will you use? Are you familiar with Fluid Film?

What do you use on the wood?

You warmed the screws to get them to finally let go, did you consider inductive heating?

I saw damage in reviewing photos, has anyone else?

Are you going to apply your skills to another project?

Thanks

Dave

 

[TFoley]

Mr Tumbler - a beautiful job.

 

[dave_person]

Hi Tumbler,
The black object is a handle that once held a turnscrew. The vent pick would slip over the blade and stick in a hole in the handle. Here is a photo of a modern example. Often the turnscrew blades were made from broken mainsprings as this one is.

dave

 

[Notchy Bob]

I agree with Grenadier's identification of these tools (post #144), and can only add that the white gadget on the loading/cleaning rod on the left is a muzzle protector. It helps keep the rod centered in the bore to reduce wear on the metal.

I was baffled by the item on the right, but dave_person provided the answer. I've never seen anything like that. A very clever way to keep a vent pick available and out of trouble!

Notchy Bob

 

[dave_person]

Hi Tumblr,
I should have posted these links earlier. They might have helped with case building particularly how to do the partitions and line the case.
https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=5339.0https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=5359.0https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=5369.0https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=6416.0https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=6417.0
dave

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
Here is a short tutorial about making correct case hooks for a pistol case using the Delft clay casting system.
https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=4843.msg45540#msg45540Here is the one-way powder flask:
https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=5811.msg54378#msg54378dave

 

[Davey Boy]

Hi,
Here is a short tutorial about making correct case hooks for a pistol case using the Delft clay casting system.
https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=4843.msg45540#msg45540
dave

Wow Dave,

Thanks for this post. What a terrific little casting kit. I am going to get me one of those!

Dave

 

[Tumbler]

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[Tumbler]

I'll start.

From the left
Stainless steel working rod for loading and cleaning.
Drop tube to deliver the powder directly to the breech without touching the barrel.
Volumetric powder measure with cut off funnel.
??? Could be a short starter but the shaft seems very small in diameter.

By the way, your box and the accessories look very nice.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Tumbler]

I am impressed with the screw slots. It is really easy to twist a screw driver and mangle the screw.

To lay hands on a museum quality gun is more balls than I got.

The plexiglass rack has got to go. Would rather see if laid out in a white tablecloth.

The pictures were very important but if the photo file size was larger so I could zoom in that would be better.

Are you sure the screw slots orientation would have been any direction of the compass. I've worked on yachts that had the head of every screw lined up fore and aft. I kind of think if it had a platinum lined touch hole the screw slots would be extremely important.

I expect the experience of doing work on a pistol like this one is an accomplishment.


Congratulations on your work Tumbler.

Thanks!

 

[Tumbler]

What the Deuce... no racing stripes???


Great looking Manton!

Still deciding on the colors. Thanks.

 

[Tumbler]

Hi Tumbler,
The black object is a handle that once held a turnscrew. The vent pick would slip over the blade and stick in a hole in the handle. Here is a photo of a modern example. Often the turnscrew blades were made from broken mainsprings as this one is.

dave

Thanks Dave.