Results from a new trade/canoe gun

[Greenmtnboy]

Howdy all,
I picked this smoothbore up from a forum member and just got around to shooting it in.
It is a trade/canoe gun with a 28" barrel in 58 cal.
It has a very fast Chambers siler lock, I jug choked it to Modified, put on a rear site and swivel sling and sling button.
The roundball results are at 50 yrds.
The shot results are at 30 and 40 yrds.
And did I mention I am selling it so I can get a "Roy" gun.
I will be posting it on the classifides.

 

[Snow on the Roof]

Being a fellow south-paw tell me more about that little smoothie.

Snow

 

[BillinOregon]

Green: Your jug-choking skills are awesome. Nice patterns!

 

[Greenmtnboy]

Being a fellow south-paw tell me more about that little smoothie.

Snow

What would you like to know?
It has a Numric Arms barrel made for Savage(very nice)
It's light and short for woods trampin,canoeing etc..
Truck huntin' :haha:
just don't squeeze that trigger inside your truck.
:haha:

 

[Greenmtnboy]

Green: Your jug-choking skills are awesome. Nice patterns!

Well I can't take the credit it's a Coyote Joe choke.

 

[Snow on the Roof]

Besides being among the left sided elite :haha: my other handicap is being 6'5" hence I find the butt stock of most tradeguns a tad short. What would be the LOP on that 'lil beauty?

Snow

 

[Greenmtnboy]

Besides being among the left sided elite :haha: my other handicap is being 6'5" hence I find the butt stock of most tradeguns a tad short. What would be the LOP on that 'lil beauty?

Snow

Around 13"

 

[Snow on the Roof]

13" ? that's what I was afraid of :shake: Nice gun though. Should make a great shooter der someone...

Snow

 

[hawk]

good stuff nice looking shooter too! :thumbsup:

 

Green,
What might you be asking for the little trade gun, when you list it?
Mark

 

[HWH]

Greenmtnboy,
If this gun is still available I'll take it. I sent you a message from the classifieds section. Thanks.
HWH

 

[Greenmtnboy]

Green,
What might you be asking for the little trade gun, when you list it?
Mark

XXX

 

[Britsmoothy]

Nice gun, the stock has more drop than my Enfield.

Wish my Enfield had that drop. I tried bending it after heating and only got 1/8" more drop, needs another 3/8".

Anyway good shooting :hatsoff:

Brits.

 

[matt denison]

Using my calipers and your picture, and going by the given dimension of the 28" barrel the length of pull comes much closer to 14 inches.

It's a nice looking gun but doesn't resemble any kind of "trade gun" that I've ever seen. :shake: With an approx. 44" over all length it doesn't really fit into the canoe gun catagory (short enough to load while sitting down) either.

Germanic lock, iron BP and with that trigger guard combined with the rear sight it would better be described as a smooth rifle. Or..? .. smooth rifles as we think of them usually had, but not always, an octagon barrel. But it's certainly not a trade gun or canoe gun.

Shot patterns look great. I'd think with the rear sight, or in spite of it, that you could get better groups with a round ball though.

 

[Greenmtnboy]

Using my calipers and your picture, and going by the given dimension of the 28" barrel the length of pull comes much closer to 14 inches.

It's a nice looking gun but doesn't resemble any kind of "trade gun" that I've ever seen. :shake: With an approx. 44" over all length it doesn't really fit into the canoe gun catagory (short enough to load while sitting down) either.

Germanic lock, iron BP and with that trigger guard combined with the rear sight it would better be described as a smooth rifle. Or..? .. smooth rifles as we think of them usually had, but not always, an octagon barrel. But it's certainly not a trade gun or canoe gun.

Shot patterns look great. I'd think with the rear sight, or in spite of it, that you could get better groups with a round ball though.

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


SORRY WERE YOU BEING SERIOUS?
I'LL PUT A TAPE ON THE STOCK TONIGHT AND POST THE PICS TOMOROW.
SENCE THERE IS NO STANDARD CANOE GUN LENGTH EVER RECORDED HISTORICALLY AND MANY TRADE GUN STYLES OUT THERE I THINK YOU MAY BE A BIT MISTAKEN WITH ALL OF YOUR ASUMPINS.
SO DON'T ASUMPTIN BOUT NOTHIN'

 

[olflint40]

Hey greenmtnboy, is that the fowler I built about a year ago. I was wondering how you like it. I built the fowler for a gentlemen up in New York but he back out on me at the last minute. I have built three of these and they are a dream to handle. You said your getting a "Roy" gun,,,, now he dose some real nice fowlers. Post some pics when you get the smoothie from Roy.

 

[matt denison]

OUCH! You needn't shout.

There's no assumptin' on my part.

A rose by any other name is still a rose.

Call it what ever you like.

Ok, ok lady, it's YOUR elk but can I just get my saddle off him first? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

 

[Black Hand]

SENCE THERE IS NO STANDARD CANOE GUN LENGTH EVER RECORDED HISTORICALLY AND MANY TRADE GUN STYLES OUT THERE I THINK YOU MAY BE A BIT MISTAKEN WITH ALL OF YOUR ASUMPINS.
SO DON'T ASUMPTIN BOUT NOTHIN'

There is no standard lenght recorded for "canoe guns" because they didn't exist historically.

Trade guns have very specific characteristics that have been well-documented by scholars.

 

[Greenmtnboy]

Hey greenmtnboy, is that the fowler I built about a year ago. I was wondering how you like it. I built the fowler for a gentlemen up in New York but he back out on me at the last minute. I have built three of these and they are a dream to handle. You said your getting a "Roy" gun,,,, now he dose some real nice fowlers. Post some pics when you get the smoothie from Roy.

yes it is and I will post some pics when I get the money together.
It was a hard, hard decision to let that gun go, it a shooter! but when you have four smoothbores and somthing needs to go well.....
You did ausom work on that gun! :bow:
That lock is got to be one of the fastest I have ever shot.
:hatsoff:

 

[Greenmtnboy]

SENCE THERE IS NO STANDARD CANOE GUN LENGTH EVER RECORDED HISTORICALLY.

There is no standard lenght recorded for "canoe guns" because they didn't exist historically

Isn't that what I said.
Now when I was a boy my grandfather who was born in 1900 told me the doublebarrel muzzleloading shot gun my great grandfather used on his trapline and deer hunting via canoe was called a "canoe gun" by my great grandfather who was born in 1870. That gun was given to him by my Great Great Grandfather who used it the same way, and also called it a canoe gun.
My great great grandfather was born 1845.
weird ain't it, no historical reference ever found to a canoe gun but the one I got hanging in my gun cabnet has been called a canoe gun for 150 yrs.
:hmm:
Maby it was so obvious they diden't need to write it down.
The shot gun 24 guage double percession 28 inch barrels.
I even got a black and white of my great grandfather, shotgun slung over his back in a Mansfield canvas canoe loaded with a nice white tail buck.
:hatsoff: