Results from a new trade/canoe gun

[Black Hand]

SENCE THERE IS NO STANDARD CANOE GUN LENGTH EVER RECORDED HISTORICALLY.

There is no standard lenght recorded for "canoe guns" because they didn't exist historically

Isn't that what I said.
Now when I was a boy my grandfather who was born in 1900 told me the doublebarrel muzzleloading shot gun my great grandfather used on his trapline and deer hunting via canoe was called a "canoe gun" by my great grandfather who was born in 1870. That gun was given to him by my Great Great Grandfather who used it the same way, and also called it a canoe gun.
My great great grandfather was born 1845.
weird ain't it, no historical reference ever found to a canoe gun but the one I got hanging in my gun cabnet has been called a canoe gun for 150 yrs.
:hmm:
Maby it was so obvious they diden't need to write it down.
The shot gun 24 guage double percession 28 inch barrels.
I even got a black and white of my great grandfather, shotgun slung over his back in a Mansfield canvas canoe loaded with a nice white tail buck.
:hatsoff:

The way your post is worded (see bold above) suggests that you are referring to the length of historical canoe guns, hence my response.

On the other hand if you want to call your gun a "trade gun", you can. But you will get lots of strange looks from people who know it isn't....

Canoe gun - You're on your own with that mess....

 

[CoyoteJoe]

I always check every post with the term "canoe gun", not because I'm really interested in them myself but because the arguments are always entertaining. :haha:

 

[hawk]

GMB you ever run one of these?I think they are popular in you old stomppen grounds back east , they handle quit nice , you'd have a "guide boat gun" then ,a little easier to say then " a rather short barreled smothbore of partiularlly handy use in a boat propelled by oar or paddle" .LOL

 

[Greenmtnboy]

I always check every post with the term "canoe gun", not because I'm really interested in them myself but because the arguments are always entertaining. :haha:

Ya I know Joe,
Before Black Hand riped me a new friggin P.C. hole he could of at lest said good groups.
:shake:
sombody's always gotts be pissin' on sombody's parade

 

[Black Hand]

Before Black Hand riped me a new friggin P.C. hole....sombody's always gotts be pissin' on sombody's parade

That was not my intention and I am sorry you took it that way.

My issue was with your label. You can call a Ford a Chevy all you want, but it still ain't a Chevy....

As a gun, it appears well-built and does shoot nice groups.

 

[gizamo]

GMB,

Great results...seems like a fine shooter...

These guns existed, there are examples evident at the Maine State Museum. Sure, they were cut down due to want or damages...and there may not be manifests of sales dating to that period.

But gun guys have been modifyin' guns for hundreds of years (sometimes out of need...i.e a damaged barrel.) If that work was done during the time period the gun was in use....how is it not HC?

GMB can call his gun anything he wants, even Rosebud if he so chooses... :rotf:

His description of it fit in the modern nomenclature of these guns.

 

[Stumpkiller]

GMB you ever run one of these?I think they are popular in you old stomppen grounds back east , they handle quit nice , you'd have a "guide boat gun" then ,a little easier to say then " a rather short barreled smothbore of partiularlly handy use in a boat propelled by oar or paddle" .LOL

It would be such a shame to shoot an Adirondack Guide Boat. They're so pretty. I doubt they ever made guns for that. :haha:

 

[Chilidog]

[/quote]" I doubt they ever made guns for that. :haha: "
[/quote]

Sure they did. They're called Adirondack Guide Boat guns... :rotf:

 

[Snow on the Roof]

Nice boat!...proof the old designs often are still the best...

Snow

 

[hawk]

they are a good lookin' boat....but I'm partial to most things made with nice wood grain. LOL

GMB must be up on the mountain and not at the computer...

 

[matt denison]

Stumpkiller.

I was in Saratoga county during my fomative years and I spent a lot of time roaming the Aderondacs. Loved the Aderondac guide lifestyle and history. Still have one of the woven pack baskets as decoration on the wall, too worn out to be useful anymore. I remember seeing a guide boat like the one pictured here at the Blue Mountain Museum. Great museum and great boats.

 

[tg]

I gotta go with laffindog here, to be a modified from long to short barreled gun which is what any of the shorties were (sub 30") in the 18th century it must first pass muster as a reasonable repro of a particular type of smoothbore, Fowler,trade gun, hunting gun, or whatever, none the less it is a nice looking gun and will make a good hunting/plinking gun but not likely quite right for the strict re-enacing game crowd which is not of importance to the majority of folks who hang here, but it is always good to have a pretty good idea of what a persons gun is or isn't for the purpose of discussion and comparison and historical chats and providing advice and avoid missinformation for those looking for a gun that closely follows a specific historical pattern/path. I have found the .58 to be my favorite bore size in smoothies, downside is that here it is not leagal for Gobble Ducks, anyone who buys the gun will get a lot of enjoyment from it and it will pass muster at most events that are not tightly juried I would think.