Rifle for roe hunting in GE

[PreglerD]

Hello, want to buy a rifle for roe hunting in Germany. I can choose between a Investarms (Lyman)Hawken Hunter or Investarms GPR (also Lyman)both in Kal.50 and percussion. What should I do?

 

[bigbore442001]

As a kid, I remember my father's friend talk about hunting in Germany. He was in the US Army and participated in a program to obtain his Jaegerbrief.

Roe deer aren't very big. I don't think you need a tremendous amount of power to cleanly harvest one like you would with a red stag.

To me, either firearm would do. It really would depend on what type of projectile you would be using. I am not sure if the round ball would satisfy any energy requiements imposed by a forester. I am not sure what the rate of rifling twist is on those guns. As a rule, a slower twist is better for round ball guns.

 

[PreglerD]

According to the German Hunting Law 1000 J at a distance of 100 meters are needed for roes. this can only be managed with a conical. So a middle twist would be good, for conicals and round ball.

 

[Rebel]

If you plan to shoot rd balls only then i would get the GPR. If you want to shoot some conicals as well as rd balls then the Investarm Hawken is a good choice. Either one will shoot rd balls ok. I would pick the one that feels the best to you.

 

[PreglerD]

Is there no possibility of a changeable barrel for the GPR for conicals?

 

[renovato]

For shooting conicals, I think I'd get the Investarms. You can shoot conicals and balls both in it. It's also a very accurate and reliable gun. I love mine and wouldn't even trade it for a T/C.

The Lyman GPR is really too slow of twist for a conical unless it's very short. A short conical might not meet your energy requirements.

You might be able to find an interchangeable barrel for the Lyman, but Green Mountain offers them for the Investarms for sure.

 

[Goldhunter]

Lyman makes a GPH (Great Plains Hunter) barrel you can buy separate directly from Lyman, $179ish US dollars. Same size as the GPR, but a 1:32 twist I believe, if you really want to go with two different barrels.

For sure easiness though, I think I would have to agree with the above gentlemen and say the Hawken that will take both, because of the twist. :winking:

 

[voltagehound]

Lyman makes both the GPR and GPhunter. I believe that these are the same rifle but different twist. The GPR 1 in 60" and the hunter version is 1 in 32" twist. Midsouth shooters supply also shows replacement barrels for either rifle. I do not know if they will interchange but would almost bet that they will. The 2005 catalog has the replacement barrels priced at $117 to $125. I hope this helps. Good Hunting.

 

[bob308]

yes you can get interchangable barrels for the layman. so you could get a .50 layman made for bullets. and then put a smaller r-b barrel on for targets or small game.

i have a .40 cal barrel for my layman i use in the offhand matches.

 

[Slamfire]

I believe the Great Plains Hunter model has a shotgun style butt. A bit easier on the shoulder than that narrow curved abomination. :winking:

 

[mark/wi]

I just bought a .50 cal hunter barrel for my GPR. It come with a fitted tang and fits well in the stock. I got it from midsouth and am happy with it.Very easy to install. You can change out in less than 5 mins. Mark/wi