Rifle Recommendation

[tg]

"hey um isnt this the company where you can die of old age before getting all the parts to your rifle?'

Sounds like you are thinking of The Riffle Shoppe

 

[tg]

"Back to the rifle, smoothbore or rifled barrel ?'

in the .50 cal a rifle would be a better choice, if you are mainly target shooting with some small game thrown in the rifle would be the best choice in the smaller bores, smoothbores are not usualy considered serious target guns.

 

[JMN68]

I am really new to this should I continue to look at another builder like TVM? I really want this to be the go to reliable rifle to take to the range and to matches. I do not mind the wait to talk to peole about different builders and then make my purchase.

 

[tg]

I think either ERA or TVM would provide a fine quality gun with the special additions you are requesting, the main difference would be in the variety of styles offereed by the different builders, there are also so other builders on this forum who take orders, they may be listed in the links forum, I would not hesitate to go with either TVM or ERA myself from what have seen/heard of their work, it is good that you take the time to look around and ask the right questions so you get it right the first time, far to often folks buy first then reseasrch later resulting in an unhappy customer thru no errors on the builders part.

 

[thewho66]

I have stayed out of this until now. I purchased a Caywood Wilson 41 1/2 barrel ,Maple stock, sling attachments and brass hardware. Now the bad news everyone here has an opinion that its not PC. Its too short, external coned touch hole, Maple stock, and who knows what else they come up with. I got it because its a style I like, I can get different barrels( which I did .50cal and 20 gauge) if finnished comes with a warrenty. The locks are some of the best made and I have never heard a complaint yet. As to time to get the rifle about 10 weeks, and I never asked when it would get here. as far as working properly its sparks every time and as long as I dont mess up will go boom every time.( still working on that, poder ball fire, powder ball fire. etc) They are a good bunch of guys to work with and answered all of my questions. Go to there site and look at what they have, you can still get one in the white but for me I wanted the warrenty just for my piece of mind and waited to get one with a finnish. Look up my posts or mp me.

Next Oldarmy here in the forum makes mighty fine guns and he could make one to order with what ever you want and will make it right. I have one of his pistols, its pretty and goes bang every time. I have posted my progress of finding a load and said it might be shooting to the left. He said send it back he would move the site if needed. His prices are very good, he will answer any questions you have and makes a great product and Im hoping to have a rifle made by him in the next year or so. I sont have a time frame for this mainly because of money. Keep up the research call evryone and then decide all of mine with these 2 have been good.

John

 

[Herb]

Two good firms to consider are Tennessee Valley Muzzleloaders AND Tennessee Valley Manufacturing. Call up their web sites and look them over. Also Muzzleloader Builders Supply in Ozone, Arkansas.

 

[BadHorse]

if you want to hit stuff at a distance like 100-200 yards, rifled

 

[brubincam]

---Tennessee Valley Muzzleloader web didn't work for me last week

 

[Zoar]

You ask smoothie or rifled--- I'd have to say rifled. You talk about some target shooting at 50 yards and small game hunting out to good distances it seems to me you want the round ball accuracy of a rifled barrel.

I would only go smooth if you also wanted to shoot birdshot, but I haven't seen you say that anywhere (that I recall) so go rifled.

 

[tg]

"Now the bad news everyone here has an opinion that its not PC."

Not opinion but fact backed by research, but it doesn't matter as long as it is the gun you want and like and the fact that you are not interested in a gun being PC/HC, this aspect of a particular gun is usually given when folks ask about the different guns around and it can be used to the end of having a PC gun or ignored if that is not what the owner is interested in, but is does go with the various areas touched upon when someone asks for info about a gun or gun kit, price comparisons, customer service, quality, historical factor, all are usually touched upon and the new buyer/builder may make use of whatever suits his needs in the way of info.

 

[psushchyk]

After reading through all of the posts, my suggestion would be to get a .45 caliber rifle, straight barrel, moderate length (36-38) and with a good lock. I had such a flintlock when I first started. It had a GR Douglas barrel and I remember hitting soda cans at 100 yds, off hand. It had a spanish made flintlock that work superbly, altho I learned real quick to put only a little bit of 4F in the pan to avoid a huge flash. I always liked the .45 caliber. Heavy enough to hunt with and light enough to carry.

 

[Rocky Johnson]

I have a Peter Berry fifle in left hand build by James Klein 791 T Drive South Fulton Michigan 49052 Phone # 269 729 4407.
Gun maker Peter Berry pasted away in 1795.
Mine has a siler lock& a 42 inch swamped barrel in .50 cal.
Give Jim A call he is a very pleasant guy to talk to and knows flintlock history.

 

[Zoar]

Rifled barrel in nearly all the recommendations here, by the way...

 

[JMN68]

Will do. Another possibility and resource.

Thank You,

Joe

 

[Zoar]

What I was re-enforcing in my last post was---that nearly all the recommendatiosn you had been getting from people on this forum were for rifled barreled guns. You had asked on a couple of occasions through this thread if you should go rifled or smooth. Just in case you did not know you were getting recommendations almost exclusively for rifled barrled guns even if people did not come out and say, hey this is another vote for a rifled barrel.
Just wanted to be clear. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[Twisted_1in66]

I have narrowed the field to an Early Rustic Arms Colonial or Cumberland rifle in the white. ?

hey um isnt this the company where you can die of old age before getting all the parts to your rifle?

karwelis

Thought that was "The Rifle Shop"... :hmm:

Twisted_1in66 :thumbsup:

 

[Twisted_1in66]

What I was re-enforcing in my last post was---that nearly all the recommendatiosn you had been getting from people on this forum were for rifled barreled guns. You had asked on a couple of occasions through this thread if you should go rifled or smooth. Just in case you did not know you were getting recommendations almost exclusively for rifled barrled guns even if people did not come out and say, hey this is another vote for a rifled barrel.
Just wanted to be clear. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Yeah, sorry, we presume you're talking rifles if you're posting on the "Flintlock Rifles" forum instead of the "Smoothbore" forum. Don't really need a swamped barrel on a smoothbore. So just to be clear, let me say, "Rifled barrel!!!" :rotf: :rotf:

Twisted_1in66 :thumbsup:

 

[thewho66]

To reply to is there anything else my only comment would be get as figured wood as you can afford. A nice striped wood ( maple ) really is thing of beauty to have. I also love cherry and think the next fowler I have made will be stocked in that wood. As to cal. .50 is a good choice since it is easier to get balls for. Keep up the research and keep us posted.

John

 

[JMN68]

So good wood is another good investment. Now the other question is "What type of rifle fowler, early lancaster, Kentucky...? There are so many to chose from. I have been researching and I am now confused. Is this area more of a personal preference?

I like the feel of the width of the stock on my NM M1A when I shoulder. I know flintlock rifles has a narrow profile in comparision to modern rifle. So what style of rifle will come close to this?

Joe

 

[thewho66]

the width of my wilson butplate is 2 inches. which is a fowler in style. an early lancaster would be about the same. most of the skinny but plates are on later guns.