i've tried sabots to see how they shoot over round balls....i have a .50 T/C hawkens flinter....and love it....i shoot the T/C cheapshot sabot in 240 gr hp....and i'll tell ya it does a job on deer out to 100+ yds....and for a 20 pack it only cost about 5 bucks at wal-mart....i've lost two deer this past oct pa muzzleloader season in 2003 with prb's....both shots where under 50 yds....and i was hitting 1.5" groupes at 50 at the range....thats why i switched to the sabots.....................bob