Scandinavian Lock Mystery Solved

[rickystl]

Hello ALL. Here is a Thread I posted almost 4 years ago. Some of you may remember. While this beautiful, original lock was in new condition, there was a mystery. There was no trigger bar/sear assembly to move the sear spring inward to release the cock for firing. And there was no fixture or evidence there ever was one. The rear of the inside of the lock plate was just blank. Was the lock never finished ? That didn't seem to make any sense. How was this lock to fire ? In this original Thread, in Post #5, fellow Forum member Pukka offered one possibility showing a photo of an early wheellock showing a one-piece trigger/wedge type assembly. But I've always thought this was a bit crude for this lock and it's time period. So here is the original Thread to give you the back story:

Rick

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/early-17th-century-scandinavian-lock.122907/

 

[rickystl]

To Continue: After all this time, I recently received a PM from fellow Forum member Wulf1928. Wulf had made a copy of a Baltic style lock himself. Somehow, Wulf's lock must have jogged his memory back to the mystery of my lock lacking any sear/trigger bar to operate my Scandinavian lock. And I believe Wulf has solved the mystery of my lock using his Baltic lock as an example. Here are some photos of Wulf's Baltic lock and a sketch detail of what I believe is the "missing" part from my Scandinavian lock. Note the "L" shaped trigger bar piece with the slot. So, IMHO that is the piece I am missing. The slotted end simply fit behind the sear spring forcing the spring inward when the bar was pulled back. No need for a separate mounting for the trigger bar. Would never have thought of this. LOL THANK YOU Wulf !!!!

Rick

 

[rickystl]

Here is a sketch detail Wulf sent me showing my missing part. THANK YOU AGAIN Wulf.

Rick

 

[wulf1928]

of course you are welcome.....always willing to help.....Thank you for the recognition......

 

[rickystl]

Now all I need to do is find someone to make this "part" and to fit it to my lock. It'll drive me crazy if I don't. LOL

Rick

 

[Pukka Bundook]

Rick,
You are not crippled in the hands. Go make the piece! It's not a hard thing to do.

Glad Wulf solved the problem. Now I see it, I recall seeing it before! No need to pin it i or anything!

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Now all I need to do is find someone to make this "part" and to fit it to my lock. It'll drive me crazy if I

Send it to me, I’ll make you one …

 

[TobJohn]

Send it to me, I’ll make you one …

Great opportunity to try forging!

 

[rickystl]

of course you are welcome.....always willing to help.....Thank you for the recognition......

That's so funny how this just popped into your head. LOL I never put it together. But you did. Thanks.

Rick

 

[rickystl]

Rick,
You are not crippled in the hands. Go make the piece! It's not a hard thing to do.

Glad Wulf solved the problem. Now I see it, I recall seeing it before! No need to pin it i or anything!

Yes, I was thinking: Where is the mounting to pin fasten the trigger bar ? Similar to my Swedish lock here. As you mention, in this case a mounting is not necessary. What I find so funny is that Wulf comes up with the answer near 4 years later. LOL Shows you how valuable a Forum like this can be.

Here's the mounting on my Swedish lock:

Rick

 

[rickystl]

Send it to me, I’ll make you one …

Hi Flint

Nice of you to offer. DARN. And I just sent you a shipment Friday. I could have included the lock in the box. Oh well.

Rick

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

How about this? Send/email me ‘rough’ measurements and I’ll send you a blank or one you can finish file to fit …

 

[rickystl]

How about this? Send/email me ‘rough’ measurements and I’ll send you a blank or one you can finish file to fit …

Hi Flint

I would send the lock to make it easier to make and fit a finished part. Unfortunately, I have a case of Neuropathy in my legs. But it sometimes causes a slight hand numbness. So my hand skills are not what they use to be. But I am happy to pay for other peoples talent. LOL Since the lock is in new condition, I'm guessing the new part can be polished out to make a pretty close match to the rest of the lock. To fit the new part looks like it just requires the unscrewing of the sear spring.

By the way, I understand you already have more than a handful of projects LOL

Rick

 

[wulf1928]

of course you are welcome.....always willing to help.....Thank you for the recognition......What is your address. I have two done for you. With no promises.

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

I would gladly put this lock upgrade to be 1st Rick …

 

[dracer]

it is really nice to see how members step up and help each other

 

[rickystl]

it is really nice to see how members step up and help each other

And it's fun. Really adds to the hobby.

 

[XVIIc Wheelock]

I don't think of it only as a hobby.....I thought it is an educations' quest for knowledge hardly available elsewhere..... with tad of curiosity? If I told my wife it was a hobby....with the amount of time I put into it and cost invested in it....she would say I need another hobby...like flying kites!

 

[TobJohn]

I don't think of it only as a hobby.....I thought it is an educations' quest for knowledge hardly available elsewhere..... with tad of curiosity? If I told my wife it was a hobby....with the amount of time I put into it and cost invested in it....she would say I need another hobby...like flying kites!

That’s how I justify my rapidly expanding library to my fiancé, lol! It’s not enough that the guns are expensive, the books are too!

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

That’s how I justify my rapidly expanding library to my fiancé, lol! It’s not enough that the guns are expensive, the books are too!

... but the info is priceless!