Seeking Opinions on a Recent Kibler SMR Purchase Experience

[Flintandsteel]

He changed his mind for craps sake. Get over it! Don’t buy from him! I’m sure he won’t lose any sleep over it. Sounds like you might.

 

[Second-rate Marksman]

He changed his mind for craps sake. Get over it! Don’t buy from him! I’m sure he won’t lose any sleep over it. Sounds like you might.

It seems you’ve missed the point of my post. This wasn’t about someone simply “changing their mind.” It was about an instance of unethical behavior that I felt others in the community should be aware of. I believe transparency is important to help maintain the integrity of this forum.

As for losing sleep over it, I’m more concerned about ensuring others don’t have the same negative experience. This community thrives when people are honest, and that was the real intention behind sharing my experience.

Though you might downplay this situation as “no harm, no foul”, the fact of the matter is that -as of right now- I still haven’t received a refund. My money has been tied up for over a week on this gun that I will never take ownership of, and it has been an inconvenience for me. I dunno’… maybe put yourself in my shoes?

 

[Johnny Too-Tall]

It seems you’ve missed the point of my post. This wasn’t about someone simply “changing their mind.” It was about an instance of unethical behavior that I felt others in the community should be aware of. I believe transparency is important to help maintain the integrity of this forum.

As for losing sleep over it, I’m more concerned about ensuring others don’t have the same negative experience. This community thrives when people are honest, and that was the real intention behind sharing my experience.

Though you might downplay this situation as “no harm, no foul”, the fact of the matter is that -as of right now- I still haven’t received a refund. My money has been tied up for over a week on this gun that I will never take ownership of, and it has been an inconvenience for me. I dunno’… maybe put yourself in my shoe

Your comment here is misleading while intentional or not. I own a business and use PayPal and give and receive funds all the time. You stated you used PayPal and he returned the funds, you got your refund instantly through PayPal.
Now - it might take a few days to transfer the money from your PayPal account back to your bank but that's it. But you saying "I still haven't received my refund" is very misleading. The refund was given and received instantly that is how PayPal works. How you manage/transfer your funds beyond that is not the sellers concern.
Best of Luck to you.

 

[Second-rate Marksman]

The refund was given and received instantly that is how PayPal works.

You’re wrong, Johnny. I didn’t use my PayPal balance; I used a debit card. I never initiated a balance transfer— the funds were sent back to my original method of payment. However you want to slice it, I haven’t yet received the refund.

I’m not contesting that Wayne didn’t issue it… only that I’ve been out the money for over a week now. The refund is finally showing a “pending” status on my account as of this morning, days after the refund was supposedly issued.

 

[Johnny Too-Tall]

You’re wrong, Johnny. I didn’t use my PayPal balance; I used a debit card. I never initiated a balance transfer— the funds were sent back to my original method of payment. However you want to slice it, I haven’t yet received the refund.

I’m not contesting that Wayne didn’t issue it… only that I’ve been out the money for over a week now. The refund is finally showing a “pending” status on my account as of this morning, days after the refund was supposedly issued.

Ok thanks for clarifying. Have a great day.

 

[Second-rate Marksman]

Ok thanks for clarifying. Have a great day.

You bet. Thank you— you also!

 

[Flintandsteel]

Money transfers, refunds, and confusion aside, still not seeing the unethical part. AND you still seem to be very angry over what? A few days of your money not available. Not sure your seller had anything to do with your money issue. Your bank seems to be the hold up.

 

[Second-rate Marksman]

Money transfers, refunds, and confusion aside, still not seeing the unethical part. AND you still seem to be very angry over what? A few days of your money not available. Not sure your seller had anything to do with your money issue. Your bank seems to be the hold up.

Are you seriously that dense? I’m upset over the fact that Wayne continues to refuse to acknowledge the inclusion and/or crack that is clearly visible forward of the lock, brushing it off as a “piece of lint”, all the while painting myself as a difficult and troublesome person.

I think it’s obvious to anyone with half a brain what happened here. When I pointed out the issue to Wayne, he feigned outrage that I would question his integrity in order to cover himself. He knows I’m a discerning buyer and wouldn’t stand for something like that. He knows I would have returned the rifle and it would have been on his dime.

He then sold the flawed firearm to a “friend” for $750 less than what he sold it to me for, thereby sweeping the problem under the rug. He knew he couldn’t list it on here, because too many individuals have read this thread and are privy to the situation. Get it? Got it? Good.