Shootout..Beauty vs The Beast

[Ed C.]

Had a shootout today between my new super duper SS target model '58 Remington and my old trusty '47 Walker. Looks like I could have saved some money. But then in offhand shooting all the guns shoot better than me.

 

[Splitear]

Boy, that Walker's a shooter!

 

[Ed C.]

Boy, that Walker's a shooter!

Plus fun to shoot! The only pesky problem is that it does not easily shed spent caps like the Rems. or 1851's

 

[Robert an saa fan]

That is a good shooting Uberti Walker.

Really like the beautiful color case hardening on your Walker !

 

[CaptainVane]

Proves Ubertis are superior to Pietta.

 

[Bad Karma]

Proves Ubertis are superior to Pietta.

100%!

 

[smokeum54]

Proves Ubertis are superior to Pietta.

Suuurrreee they are

 

[smokeum54]

Had a shootout today between my new super duper SS target model '58 Remington and my old trusty '47 Walker. Looks like I could have saved some money. But then in offhand shooting all the guns shoot better than me.
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Nice shootin from that walker. I have a luv hate relationship with mine. Luv it cause its awesome, hate it cause my grandpa used to make me carry it around the farm for shooting rats. Might as well been dragging a boat anchor

 

[Ed C.]

Nice shootin from that walker. I have a luv hate relationship with mine. Luv it cause its awesome, hate it cause my grandpa used to make me carry it around the farm for shooting rats. Might as well been dragging a boat anchor

Grandpa should have gotten you a pony to help out lugging that walker around!

 

[smokeum54]

Grandpa should have gotten you a pony to help out lugging that walker around!

He only had one critter to help, a 1400lb Clydesdale named Dan. I'm not sure who was meaner, my grandpa hiting me upside the head cause i didn't know peanuts grew underground or dan buckin me off onto a barbed fence cause he was scared by a 12 inch bull snake coming out from under a cow pie. Either way, I still luv both the sumbitches

 

[Smokerr]

That is some great shooting. What were the loads?

 

[New Hampshire]

Plus fun to shoot! The only pesky problem is that it does not easily shed spent caps like the Rems. or 1851's

Excuse my old memory I may be way off on this, but I seem to remember maybe 25 years ago there was a nipple with a small hole in the side that would be covered by the cap. I was told it was to push out the side of the nipple a bit so the nipples would fall off easy. Am I remembering that correct?

 

[Gee Dog]

Excuse my old memory I may be way off on this, but I seem to remember maybe 25 years ago there was a nipple with a small hole in the side that would be covered by the cap. I was told it was to push out the side of the nipple a bit so the nipples would fall off easy. Am I remembering that correct?

 

[Gee Dog]

SliXshot Black Powder Nipples​

 

[New Hampshire]

SliXshot Black Powder Nipples​

Thank you, thats them.

 

[OldNo7]

You didn't say, but I'm guessing you used the same load for the Remmy?

I'd give it a fair shake and try it some more; maybe measure the bore and chambers (it could need a ball 0.003" larger than the other) and try different loads. The same thing can happen with "unmentionable handguns" that use those fancy self-contained pre-loaded cartridges... One load may not be best for both. Maybe the barrel needs to be shot 100 times too to break it in.

Don't give up on it -- shoot it more.

Old No7

 

[M. De Land]

Proves Ubertis are superior to Pietta.

That Pietta given some TLc can be made to shoot every bit as well as the Uberti Walker. I have both !

 

[PastorB]

It has been my long observation that Pietta's Remington .44's size the ball too small upon loading. From the factory, in my guns, the Pietta chambers shave the ball/bullet to about .445, while my bore is .452, resulting in a ball bouncing down the barrel and barely engaging the rifling. When using a aftermarket accessory that uses bullets of .452 diameter, my Pietta's have great accuracy. I now hone my cylinders out to .451-.452, and that has solved the accuracy problem with Pietta Remingtons. Oddly, Pietta Colt repros do not seem to have this problem. That is my experience with my guns over four plus decades.

 

[Ed C.]

You didn't say, but I'm guessing you used the same load for the Remmy?

I'd give it a fair shake and try it some more; maybe measure the bore and chambers (it could need a ball 0.003" larger than the other) and try different loads. The same thing can happen with "unmentionable handguns" that use those fancy self-contained pre-loaded cartridges... One load may not be best for both. Maybe the barrel needs to be shot 100 times too to break it in.

Don't give up on it -- shoot it more.

Old No7

Not the same load. Walker-44 grains of FFFg and in the Remmy I use 25 grains of FFFg. The design of each gun calls for different loads.

 

[Ed C.]

It has been my long observation that Pietta's Remington .44's size the ball too small upon loading. From the factory, in my guns, the Pietta chambers shave the ball/bullet to about .445, while my bore is .452, resulting in a ball bouncing down the barrel and barely engaging the rifling. When using a aftermarket accessory that uses bullets of .452 diameter, my Pietta's have great accuracy. I now hone my cylinders out to .451-.452, and that has solved the accuracy problem with Pietta Remingtons. Oddly, Pietta Colt repros do not seem to have this problem. That is my experience with my guns over four plus decades.

I've heard that before. I guess the easiest way for me to check that would be to force in some RB's remove and then mike them. Did you do your own honing? I would imagine at least a drill press would be needed do an accurate job.