Some German Flintlocks

[hawkeye1755]

Here are some pics from a German Auction.
I have only a few informations about the guns.

1. Double barrelled smoothbore.France ca.1780
"Maguin Tivelie" and "à St. Etienne".
2. German Flintlock Rifle, cal.15mm,
Lockplate sign "Schwalbach à Hanau" 1730-1780
3. :hmm: nothing
4. German Flintlock Rifle, cal.15mm,"B. (Bernhard) Pistor à Cassel".

nothing
What did the guys with the wisdom and knowledge think? :hmm: 1750 or later?
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[rabjr]

I'll take the top one please! :grin:

 

[SunSetter]

I think I'm in love. Those are absolutely beautiful. I wish they could speak and tell us their history. Did you hear what they sold for?

 

[Stophel]

I LOVE those two Hessian rifles!!! Especially the brass mounted one.

The bottom one pictured with the horn probably is about 1750...more or less. The shape of the triggerguard bow makes me think it's a bit later... I would presume South German/Austrian or somewhere like that.

What auction house is this from?

 

[hawkeye1755]

What auction house is this from?

I don't know. :redface: Have to ask my friend, who send me the pics.

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[rich pierce]

I'm all for #3 which is perhaps unusual- fowler barrel, rifle style guard etc. Looks like the roots of American rifles.

 

[romeoh]

I'll take the top one please! :grin:

Our wire work fan! :grin:

Well, I like that too.
But the rifle below it looks also to me like romeoh could have a grin on his face when shooting it... :grin:

 

[Elnathan]

I'm all for #3 which is perhaps unusual- fowler barrel, rifle style guard etc. Looks like the roots of American rifles.

That one caught my eye too. Any idea as to it's date, anyone?

 

[Grizzled Roberts]

Being a rifle shooter I like #4. But I would sure like to fling a few buck & ball loads out of #3.
Better curves than Miss Monroe! :thumbsup:

 

[rich pierce]

I'd guess 1740-1760, just to get Mike or Chris to chime in and give a more educated estimate.

 

[Stophel]

The third gun with the straight wrist I'd put a broad date of 1730-1750 on.....about the same as the other two Hessian rifles.

Looks like a "thumbnail" finial on the buttplate of that gun too. This gun is more generic in form, and could be from about anywhere, but if I were to GUESS, I'd say central West Germany....maybe.

 

[Mike Brooks]

I agree with Chis' dates. # 3 is a fowling gun or a bore rifle with straight grooves. The lack of a box as well as the oct/rnd barrel is a good indicator.
I personally dig #2 :thumbsup: It makes me want to wear liederhosen and yump up and down while drinking beer. :youcrazy:

 

[hawkeye1755]

What auction house is this from?

Chris, i have talked with my friend.He couldn't remember the Aution house.So i searched the web and after endless hours :grin: i find it.
'Auktionshaus Michael Zeller' Lindau am Bodensee.
Link

Some dates to #3
It is a Flintlocktromblon. :shocked2:
The muzzledia. at the end is 38mm or 1.496".
catalog no.87


Click on 'Kategorien' and then 'Waffen'

For the rifle with horn, look at catalog no.94
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[Mike Brooks]

Some dates to #3
It is a Flintlocktromblon.
The muzzledia. at the end is 38mm or 1.496".
catalog no.87

A Flintlock Trombone? :hmm:

 

[hawkeye1755]

Some dates to #3
It is a Flintlocktromblon.
The muzzledia. at the end is 38mm or 1.496".
catalog no.87

A Flintlock Trombone? :hmm:

Le tromblon = blunderbuss

I think it looks like the no.1229
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[hawkeye1755]

I'm all for #3 which is perhaps unusual- fowler barrel, rifle style guard etc. Looks like the roots of American rifles.

Rich, surprised that it is an 'Le Tromblon'?
Link

Go to no.1229 and click on the pic.
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[Mike Brooks]

Some dates to #3
It is a Flintlocktromblon.
The muzzledia. at the end is 38mm or 1.496".
catalog no.87

A Flintlock Trombone? :hmm:

Le tromblon = blunderbuss

I think it looks like the no.1229
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I think it IS # 1229