Lol, I completely missed that.
-
Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight.
We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.
Use this link to sign up please; https://membership.nra.org/recruiters/join/XR045103
Stolen Guns: Please read and pass along?
- Thread starter Brenda
- Start date
Help Support Muzzleloading Forum:
You've got to share the quick and dirty of how that happened. Was it recovered during a crime, or did it pop up at like an estate sale or something?
Boy that was a long time ago, but if memory serves me a Florida Game & Fish officer made contact with the owner and ran all of the guns through NCIC and got the hit on it being stolen. The owner had purchased the revolver at a pawn shop in either Georgia or Alabama. Of course the officer took possession of it and notified us of the recovery. It took a while but we finally got it back and returned it to the rightful owner. Trying to run down who pawned it resulted in a dead end as the pawn shop was out of business.
Thank you for sharing this story.
That had to feel great knowing a revolver that you were confident you would never see again was back in your hands. It's unfortunate they didn't catch the guy, but in that time period, it is what it is, I would be ecstatic if I got a call 20 years later saying that they found things that were stolen from me.
Actually it was not my revolver. It was stolen in a burglary my department had worked before I joined the force. I just happened to be the Sergeant at the time it was recovered and I worked to get it returned and back to the owner.
We hear you, it's hard to except the fact that your guns are gone. This is a voice of experience ...
I put one box to one side of this move to be placed in the truck for safe keeping. In this box was handguns, old and new .... While the movers were moving our goods one of them loaded my special box into the semi. I didn't realize this until we unloaded the truck the next day.
My special box is missing with six handguns: (1) Ruger Single Six, (1) Ruger Sp101, (1) Ruger Mark II, (1) Ruger Bearcat, (1) original flintlock pistol (Wayne Estate gun), (1) original flintlock pistol (no makers mark).
I call the moving to look in their shop and were the trailer was stored over night. Call the police department to report this with having cartridge guns that could be used for who knows what. That led to a full blown investigation, with local police department, Salt Lake City Police (they had the cop that could speak Spanish), the FBI to put the guns on the national stolen list. We were getting phone calls from every where: local cops to the Feds, home owners insurance, NRA insurance, (we had a real issue and didn't know what was next).
HERE'S THE AD FOR THE WAYNE ITEMS:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Here's a big mistake, the worst part is I made it. We sold our home, I packed as much of our wares as possible. Called a moving company to move our items to the new location three miles away.I put one box to one side of this move to be placed in the truck for safe keeping. In this box was handguns, old and new .... While the movers were moving our goods one of them loaded my special box into the semi. I didn't realize this until we unloaded the truck the next day.
My special box is missing with six handguns: (1) Ruger Single Six, (1) Ruger Sp101, (1) Ruger Mark II, (1) Ruger Bearcat, (1) original flintlock pistol (Wayne Estate gun), (1) original flintlock pistol (no makers mark).
I call the moving to look in their shop and were the trailer was stored over night. Call the police department to report this with having cartridge guns that could be used for who knows what. That led to a full blown investigation, with local police department, Salt Lake City Police (they had the cop that could speak Spanish), the FBI to put the guns on the national stolen list. We were getting phone calls from every where: local cops to the Feds, home owners insurance, NRA insurance, (we had a real issue and didn't know what was next).
HERE'S THE AD FOR THE WAYNE ITEMS:
Attachments
Have a double picture I couldn't remove above, sorry.
A few days later we are starting to get settle into the new place, busy putting our items away, both garage doors are open and I go inside to get a drink. Only gone maybe 5 minutes.
I come back out to the garage and here's the missing box of guns sitting by the steps ... I'm excited, open the box and here's the missing guns (not quite).
(1) Ruger Single Six,
(1) Ruger Sp101,
(1) Ruger Mark II,
(1) Ruger Bearcat,
Missing is:
(1) original flintlock pistol (Wayne Estate gun),
(1) original flintlock pistol (no makers mark).
I call the local police, I'm told not to touch the guns received, they want to fingerprint everything.
The agent figured the missing items would be easy to sell with no serial numbers, just proof marks.
The box of guns are now with the police, we have to make the calls to Salt Lake City, the Feds, insurance companies and give them the information of what was gotten back. The FBI agent figured who took the guns got scared being easy to trace (we all know how that goes, no where). The (2) missing flintlocks they figured went to the west coast and were sold there to a collector. Have never hear anymore about them, we have a few pictures and flyers on the Wayne gun ...
Bottom line State Farm and NRA treated us fairly on the missing flinter's, good agents.
Second flinter picture and original sales sheet when my father bought the Wayne pistol.
A few days later we are starting to get settle into the new place, busy putting our items away, both garage doors are open and I go inside to get a drink. Only gone maybe 5 minutes.
I come back out to the garage and here's the missing box of guns sitting by the steps ... I'm excited, open the box and here's the missing guns (not quite).
(1) Ruger Single Six,
(1) Ruger Sp101,
(1) Ruger Mark II,
(1) Ruger Bearcat,
Missing is:
(1) original flintlock pistol (Wayne Estate gun),
(1) original flintlock pistol (no makers mark).
I call the local police, I'm told not to touch the guns received, they want to fingerprint everything.
The agent figured the missing items would be easy to sell with no serial numbers, just proof marks.
The box of guns are now with the police, we have to make the calls to Salt Lake City, the Feds, insurance companies and give them the information of what was gotten back. The FBI agent figured who took the guns got scared being easy to trace (we all know how that goes, no where). The (2) missing flintlocks they figured went to the west coast and were sold there to a collector. Have never hear anymore about them, we have a few pictures and flyers on the Wayne gun ...
Bottom line State Farm and NRA treated us fairly on the missing flinter's, good agents.
Second flinter picture and original sales sheet when my father bought the Wayne pistol.
Attachments
Last edited:
Sam squanch
69 Cal.
- Joined
- Oct 9, 2019
- Messages
- 3,096
- Reaction score
- 4,420
Firearm theft should be a minimum 20 year sentence. That might stop a lot of this and stop some shootings too.
- Joined
- Apr 9, 2012
- Messages
- 1,903
- Reaction score
- 3,676
Notify ATF for sure, They have a pretty good idea who thieves in your area are. FBI also. I am so sorry for his loss. Tell him for me: "Hang in Grizz, this may take a while." Polecat
Very old thread resurrected, so just wanted to repeat what was mentioned, almost in passing, in an old post in this thread, that there is a free public database listing serial numbers of stolen guns:
https://www.hotgunz.com/
https://www.hotgunz.com/
In our case (the wife's and mine) when checking with the moving company they had one of the movers quit that evening when they returned to the shop.
They are now looking for him in CA, he will probably slide south of the border. The police told me that these questionable guys use metal detectors to fine valuables in your belongings !@#$%^
They are now looking for him in CA, he will probably slide south of the border. The police told me that these questionable guys use metal detectors to fine valuables in your belongings !@#$%^
CaptainVane
Colt ‘51 & Remington ‘58 .36; Colt ‘48 .31
Had a house fire in 2014. After it was put out and we heading to a hotel (for 10 months, it was bad) cop asked if I had any firearms. Yep, get them, take them with you. Some of these were what they now call ghost guns, untraceable. Cops helped me load them in the car, never questioned a one, figured I had enough grief.
Lesson was, never let your guns in the care of others.
Sorry for your misfortune, I am only posting this for the next guy that may fall in our situation.
Lesson was, never let your guns in the care of others.
Sorry for your misfortune, I am only posting this for the next guy that may fall in our situation.
We had 15 guns stolen in a burglary in 1981, Along with the guns, a lot of my wife's jewelry, gold coins, cash, and other valuables. That was in south Florida, while we were up here on vacation. It was long before that data base was in existence.
Everything was in a 600 pound Tread Lock security gun safe. Along with what I have listed, there was 500 pounds of pure lead & lineotype in separate ingots for casting round balls and boolits on the floor. A lot of smokeless powder and black powder (which was in the door behind the lock). I always hoped whoever stole the safe had used a cutting torch to cut the lock off and blew themselves up. We moved to the Ozarks the next year after selling the house and getting an insurance settlement which allowed us to pay off the note on our 60 acres of land and build the house free of debt.
Everything was in a 600 pound Tread Lock security gun safe. Along with what I have listed, there was 500 pounds of pure lead & lineotype in separate ingots for casting round balls and boolits on the floor. A lot of smokeless powder and black powder (which was in the door behind the lock). I always hoped whoever stole the safe had used a cutting torch to cut the lock off and blew themselves up. We moved to the Ozarks the next year after selling the house and getting an insurance settlement which allowed us to pay off the note on our 60 acres of land and build the house free of debt.
The old firm of Green River Rifle Works in Roosevelt Utah had a bunch of guns stolen from the shop, some antique collectors and and a wheel barrow full of new GRRW rifles. None have ever been recovered.
An old story that gets repeated every few years, who next ...
.
An old story that gets repeated every few years, who next ...
.
- Joined
- Apr 9, 2012
- Messages
- 1,903
- Reaction score
- 3,676
OOOOPS! Thanks for the correction.
- Joined
- Mar 13, 2020
- Messages
- 7,344
- Reaction score
- 20,492
- Location
- On the Border in Idaho looking at BC
even though this was 20 years ago or so, those guns are still stolen property belonging to Grizz's estate.
the thing about most firearms is they don't ever die unless someone destroys them.
we should all watch for these even in today's market.
the thing about most firearms is they don't ever die unless someone destroys them.
we should all watch for these even in today's market.
