Skychief
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Hey all you Seneca shooters out there! Care to share your most accurate loads for 36 caliber roundballs??? PLEASE!!! :bow:
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T/C Seneca loads ????
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25grns light, 40grns heavy fffg should cover ya. Just have to see what your rifle tells ya.
hanshi
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My .36 isn't a Seneca but 30 grains 3f does it for a small game load and 40 grains is looking to do it beyond the 60 yard limit.
You can get a ball-park idea from other shooters what loads will work for your rifle. However, every rifle is different. Even same make rifles. For example, my .36 Pedersoli Frontier rifle only groups well with 40gr of 3F. So either way, you'll have to spend some time at the range to work up your load.
Skychief
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Thanks guys! I realize every rifle is different from every other rifle. I am asking this question as I have been having difficulty with getting the dern thing to group. Tonight, I applied some lock-tite to the rear sight assembly as I saw some play in it. Hopefully someone that has a good shooting Seneca will come along and post his secret recipe. MAYBE it will work for my Seneca and help me avoid burning through a pound or two of powder to get it shooting! Thanks again!
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My wife has been using 30 grains FFFg, .350 ball and .018 ticking patch for years with her Seneca. Off a bench it will put them in all touching at 25 yards. You will have to find what your rifle likes but this may give you a starting point.
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My Seneca likes 30 gr 3F Goex with a Hornady .350 ball and .018 pillow ticking or .015 ox yoke patch and wonder lube. The 36 sure loads a lot easier than my 32 Cherokee. With the 32 everything you try to put in the muzzle is the same size as the hole.
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I was having trouble grouping mine also.For a couple years I thought all it would shoot well was Maxi balls.After exhausting all powder,patch,and grain options,I HIT IT!It likes a .360 RB.
Here is the 25yd group.The one in the bull was after I moved the sights down.
Here is the 25yd group.The one in the bull was after I moved the sights down.
Skychief
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410-er said:I was having trouble grouping mine also.For a couple years I thought all it would shoot well was Maxi balls.After exhausting all powder,patch,and grain options,I HIT IT!It likes a .360 RB.
Here is the 25yd group.The one in the bull was after I moved the sights down.
Interesting. Very interesting :hmm: !!!
Skychief
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By the way, how hard does that 360 load start? Does it take a mallet to get started?
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Most use a .350" ball in a .36 cal. gun. It should not be difficult to load.
It all depends on the shape of the crown at the muzzle of your gun, compared to the diameter of your ball, and the thickness of the patch.
You might also consider coning the muzzle to allow you to load the PRB without the need of a short starter. I like to be able to thumb start my PRB, and leave the short starter in my range box to use with other guns at the range. :surrender:
Consider that the .36 is basically a 50 yd.* caliber, and most all barrels made today will give you the accuracy needed to hit small game, if you do your part, out to 50 yds, I see no need to be hauling a heavy target rifle in .36 cal. to the woods to use to hunt game. Nor, do oversized balls, and thick patches seem to be required to kill squirrels, and rabbits, or varmints. :hmm:
* Yes, I know that may fine shots have been made out to 100 yds, and beyond, using this caliber RB, but the little 65 grain ball is losing energy at an incredible rate, even it it still has a relatively flat trajectory. Unless You are shooting coyote, I think taking 100 yd shots at anything less just increases the chances of wounding game that will suffer a slow death, if you can't find it. 50 yds.(150 feet) is a long distance for an open sight shot, with any caliber rifle, shot off-hand, as so many hunting shots must be. If I sound conservative in rating a .36 rifle, it is not because I do not know its capabilities in the hands of a skilled shooter. The Great shooter know how far they can hit a small animal with a .36 RB, and all that I have met and known advise staying within 50 yds.
It all depends on the shape of the crown at the muzzle of your gun, compared to the diameter of your ball, and the thickness of the patch.
You might also consider coning the muzzle to allow you to load the PRB without the need of a short starter. I like to be able to thumb start my PRB, and leave the short starter in my range box to use with other guns at the range. :surrender:
Consider that the .36 is basically a 50 yd.* caliber, and most all barrels made today will give you the accuracy needed to hit small game, if you do your part, out to 50 yds, I see no need to be hauling a heavy target rifle in .36 cal. to the woods to use to hunt game. Nor, do oversized balls, and thick patches seem to be required to kill squirrels, and rabbits, or varmints. :hmm:
* Yes, I know that may fine shots have been made out to 100 yds, and beyond, using this caliber RB, but the little 65 grain ball is losing energy at an incredible rate, even it it still has a relatively flat trajectory. Unless You are shooting coyote, I think taking 100 yd shots at anything less just increases the chances of wounding game that will suffer a slow death, if you can't find it. 50 yds.(150 feet) is a long distance for an open sight shot, with any caliber rifle, shot off-hand, as so many hunting shots must be. If I sound conservative in rating a .36 rifle, it is not because I do not know its capabilities in the hands of a skilled shooter. The Great shooter know how far they can hit a small animal with a .36 RB, and all that I have met and known advise staying within 50 yds.
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