Tennessee changes its definition of a muzzleloader

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They are pushing to make all muzzleloaders require back ground check. They will intentionally make so confusing that they will have to.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Muzzle loaders that load from the breech.

Is this like Cali renaming bees fish?

 

[Kodiak13]

Penna. has a Blackpowder season and a Primitive season. No inline during primitive season. I personally think Inlines should not be allowed in Blackpowder season. It defeats the entire reason for the season. Inlines are for those who just like to kill things IMHO, Why? make them legal only during regular season and see how fast the wannabes drop them and go to a reg. rifle! Time to weed out the non believers and fakers (IMHO). Blackpowder season should be for traditional, true muzzle loading, firearms. No Sharps, Smith carbines, Rolling Blocks etc or Winchesters using BP cartridges. Just one mans opinion.

Agree wholeheartedly, being from PA I love the late season where ONLY flintlock rifles are legal. Nothing like ghosting thru the woods as Giant snowflakes drift down from heaven!!!

 

[Rudyard]

Its clearly a mess Ive never seen a' Tradition's 'any thing And rather despize non traditional guns but we have No regulations other than no 22 or low power or smooth bores for deer They Arnt thinking of humanitarian reasons just they don't trust people with guns that can kill the protected Native Pidgeon's. The Department of Conservation drop thousands of tons of 1080 poison annually to kill Deer & other deemed invasive introduced pests( so much for humanitarian policy ) .Never heard of Wheel or matchlocks being debarred . I've use these sorts over the years being soley into black powder. That the US debar them seems ridiculous, though I doubt many are so used and could hardly be an issue while nitro MLs are excepted .So long as the muzzle loader is a fair representation of an original rifle or gun I can see no sensible objection . But anything modern ought not to be allowed in what is supposed to be a' 'primitive ' season .No burocrat with no proper understanding of the subject should ever be allowed to dream up legislation 'Of course money allways talks but the issue could hardly be clearer .
My further two pennorth .
Rudyard

 

[sheriff john]

We've seen Missouri's primitive weapons deer season morph from archery/single-shot muzzle loaders not smaller than .40 which hit in part of the rut into a mess. Now after Christmas, spears up to and including AR pistols are legal. What once celebrated and encouraged historic sportsmanship is now "just another deer season".

So, if you don't want to see your state end up like us, speak up to the rule-makers before it's too late. Sportsman's organizations have clout, but unless you make an effort to get involved, rules made seldom go back to what they were. Good luck!!

 

[Paul Winslow]

Here is what IRS has to say. And be sure to read the two " additional information" items at the bottom of the page.
https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/lobbying

None of that stuff on that website matters in the least because we all know that none of our governing bodies or officials would even dare to dream of being swayed by a lobbyist with a briefcase full of money...lmao

 

[Rudyard]

Penna. has a Blackpowder season and a Primitive season. No inline during primitive season. I personally think Inlines should not be allowed in Blackpowder season. It defeats the entire reason for the season. Inlines are for those who just like to kill things IMHO, Why? make them legal only during regular season and see how fast the wannabes drop them and go to a reg. rifle! Time to weed out the non believers and fakers (IMHO). Blackpowder season should be for traditional, true muzzle loading, firearms. No Sharps, Smith carbines, Rolling Blocks etc or Winchesters using BP cartridges. Just one mans opinion.

I Agree entirely. NO season cheaters at all . traditional or none. That spells it out .
Down here there are NO seasons at all deer are classed as pests I've not heard of any one one hunting with any inline. NO reason . I use MLs all sorts original or my' got up' ones no zip gun thinking . Only hunting rifle since 1968 did I use a BL except one hunt with a WR Improuved Martini In Number two musket chambering hunted more with snap matchlocks .Snap hances, & 'English lock' variants did have walk with an old double 20 bore percussion shotgun yesterday just near the Village no obliging bunny s
. Crusty old Rudyard

 

[Rudyard]

I Agree entirely. NO season cheaters at all . traditional or none. That spells it out .
Down here there are NO seasons at all deer are classed as pests I've not heard of any one one hunting with any inline. NO reason . I use MLs all sorts original or my' got up' ones no zip gun thinking . Only hunting rifle since 1968 did I use a BL except one hunt with a WR Improuved Martini In Number two musket chambering hunted more with snap matchlocks .Snap hances, & 'English lock' variants did have walk with an old double 20 bore percussion shotgun yesterday just near the Village no obliging bunny s
. Crusty old Rudyard

 

[morehops52]

Penna. has a Blackpowder season and a Primitive season. No inline during primitive season. I personally think Inlines should not be allowed in Blackpowder season. It defeats the entire reason for the season. Inlines are for those who just like to kill things IMHO, Why? make them legal only during regular season and see how fast the wannabes drop them and go to a reg. rifle! Time to weed out the non believers and fakers (IMHO). Blackpowder season should be for traditional, true muzzle loading, firearms. No Sharps, Smith carbines, Rolling Blocks etc or Winchesters using BP cartridges. Just one mans opinion.

I live in PA also and couldn't agree more. I wish the new-fangled rifles would be allowed only in regular rifle season.

 

[mikesto44]

Michigan settled this debate easily. You can now use any center fire legal weapon you so choose. During our muzzleloader season. So much for traditional b.p. guns.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Penna. has a Blackpowder season and a Primitive season. No inline during primitive season. I personally think Inlines should not be allowed in Blackpowder season. It defeats the entire reason for the season. Inlines are for those who just like to kill things IMHO, Why? make them legal only during regular season and see how fast the wannabes drop them and go to a reg. rifle! Time to weed out the non believers and fakers (IMHO). Blackpowder season should be for traditional, true muzzle loading, firearms. No Sharps, Smith carbines, Rolling Blocks etc or Winchesters using BP cartridges. Just one mans opinion.

Amen!

 

[smo]

I live in Tennessee and the topic is still being kicked around on a local deer forum..

Here’s my response ….

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Nothing wrong with using a straight wall cartridge gun and there's already a season for it..
It's a personal choice. Just do it!

I enjoy muzzle loader season so much I hunt with mine on almost every hunt I go on now..
When legal of course. ( not during bow season)

After being loaded since opening weekend of muzzleloader season , I decided Friday it was time too unload it.

It's a flintlock and everyone knows how finicky those things can be…

Not the biggest buck in the woods , but he will eat ….well.

My gun functioned as it should have going off without any delay and hitting its mark at 65-70 yards broad side.

The shot penetrating both lungs with full body pass through.

A .54 cal self poured roundball , patched with pillow ticking measuring .016 pushed bye 70 grns of Goex fffg real , black powder.

He ran about 100 yards …


Out of all the people promoting the straight wall cartridge guns use during m/l season…
How many of you Guys used one this season?

Kill anything?

Inquiring minds want to know…

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I can’t wait too hear how many s/w cartridge guns were actually used…

 

[mikesto44]

The states make the rules. Your choice what YOU want to use. Doesn't matter what the other person does as long as it's legal. There tag not yours and there call how big there buck needs to be.
Time hunters work together not against each other..!

 

[smo]

So you think cartridge guns should be allowed during bow and muzzleloader seasons?

 

[mikesto44]

Never said bow season !! Never said I LIKED modern guns in muzzleloader season. ALL I STATED is the STATE makes the rules. It's YOUR choice which weapon you want to use. Maybe write your state representative and voice your disagreement ?
Posting on F.B. or a forum does nothing. But I'll continue to use my trade gun in our season. Others can use whatever they want as long as it's legal.

 

[Captndan]

My 50cal. Hawkins flinter will take down anything in Tennessee. But, my Sharps is not aloud. Where’s the logic in that?

 

[ChuckJonesWagon]

Just to mix in some more mud for Pa hunters (where I live)....for the post Christmas flintlock season you are permitted to use a flintlock pistol, 50 cal or greater. EXCEPT in what are known as "Special Regulation Area's" (SRA's). Only longgun flintlocks are allowed there. SRA's are around Pittsburgh and Philly.

I guess the theory is because these areas are more highly populated they limit the firearm (Post Christmas) to a long arm.

But my 50 cal flintlock pistol has a velocity of 940fps as compared to my 50 cal longgun which is 2,130fps. How does it make sense that a faster PRB is somehow "safer" than a slower PRB?

Just asking........

 

[smo]

My 50cal. Hawkins flinter will take down anything in Tennessee. But, my Sharps is not aloud. Where’s the logic in that?

Your Sharps is allowed in Tennessee, just not during bow or muzzleloader season.
As it shouldn’t be, it’s not a muzzleloader.