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It’s staked into a dovetail and it’s been there twenty odd years. I’m not worried about it at this point.I really can't imagine that staying on there for long
It’s staked into a dovetail and it’s been there twenty odd years. I’m not worried about it at this point.I really can't imagine that staying on there for long
I suspect they are but you can measure the thickness and see. Going from memory I think it’s about .120 or so. The ladies at VTI could likely measure one for you.I messed up. That was intended to be a quote (or should have have been) from another poster.
Full on board as clearly the cylinder is lower than the frame or the barrel assembly.
I have a 47 Walker - is the sight the same or ??????
You may have a point but I have never used anything but full power loads in my guns. They are plinkers but also used for small and medium sized game so they are sighted accordingly.I've always wondered if WE aren't applying our method of using a sight and expectations instead of how THEY used them when talking Cap-n-Ball revolvers? For example, at most handgun fight distances which are at 10 feet or less, would you be taking the time to "aim" using the sights, OR would you be point shooting?
At a distance where the sights would be used, are they not correct? The Hickock-Tutt fight of 1865 took place at what reportedly was 75 yards, and Hickock is reported to have used his sights, striking Tutt between the fifth and seventh ribs. As Tutt was standing with his left side toward Hickock when struck, the bullet traversed his chest cavity, and he died about a minute or less after impact.
That may be pretty accurate, but Hickock did not report where on Tutt he was aiming when he fired. IF Hickock was aiming at Tutt where Tutt's head met the shoulders, then that's a pretty good drop, but, perhaps Hickock knew that his pistols were good at 40 yards using the sights, and simply trusted the handgun would hit Tutt somewhere in the torso. I doubt Wild Bill knew Tutt was at 75 yards, and suspect he only knew Tutt was a "good way off, so hold a bit high". Hickock did use his left arm to steady his aim when firing at Tutt.
Have we tried out our Colt copies to see where those sights actually lob the bullet with proper self defense powder loads, or are we trying to make the sights work with light loads at twenty-five feet?
LD
I've always wondered if WE aren't applying our method of using a sight and expectations instead of how THEY used them when talking Cap-n-Ball revolvers?
This is the best sighting remedy I am aware of for open frame guns along with squaring the notch in the hammer nose.I thought this was worth its own post as 45D and I had the same reaction to cutting the Hammer Sight Notch deeper, you are not changing anything.
My take was you also would have to grind down the area above the sight slot and lower the whole top to lower your POI. Seems like front sight fix is a lot better.
And to add in a 2 cents, looking at that slot on my 47 Walker (a sample of one so I don't say it applies to all Open Tops) is that its at the wrong angle.
Putting a thin ruler in that slot when the hammer is full cock, its rakes up at a 30-40 deg angle. So the only part you can see is the very top of that slot for a sight picture. Be curious if anyone has original Colt Open top pictures of the hammer sight notch.
I have cut mine open more left and right to get more of a view and it has helped. But I am working on it at the top area as any more depth would require cutting down in that small spot. I may do it but I do this stuff a bit at a time.
And being the odd ball that I am, I also upset the front sight, its still lodged in the slot but rotated up and will see how much that helps. I don't think it will come loose but will keep an eye on it and its range only so I have control over that, not something you would want to try for a field gun. I did that last night and both the filing and the front sight will be a test to see how it affects the all too high POI (well the rear is for sight picture and the front is for lowering POI)
I can also access it to measure it for when I get a piece of brass that I can make into a higher front sight and install it. Then I have to see how the sight picture is with square, or open up the left to right on the hammer more or taper the front sight like it is.
Sorry, but looks kind of weird, though I'm sure it's effective.This is the best sighting remedy I am aware of for open frame guns along with squaring the notch in the hammer nose.
Be aware that partridge sights have been known to fly off.If I was doing that it would be a Partridge type with the reverse rake...
This is the best sighting remedy I am aware of for open frame guns along with squaring the notch in the hammer nose.
That's the beauty, one can choose any profile they like and have adjustment for windage and elevation. I like this profile and the look personally but should have made the base about .100 wider I think !Sorry, but looks kind of weird, though I'm sure it's effective.
This is on my C-Series 1851 that Mike did back in 2014. I grooved the hammer and it hits dead center at 25 yards ever since.
Most open frame guns shoot high and off to one side which means the front sight needs to be elevated and given some windage to hit POA which clears being able to look over the cylinder through the hammer notch. A trick I have used for windage in non dove tailed front sights is to make the blade offset to the mounting cut/mortise. You can hardly notice it being off center and yet it allows for a windage correction.Interesting, I know mine is not a great picture but the grove on my hammer runs down the backside further - when I get the new front sight on I will see how that sight picture looks and open up the hammer more if needed (probably)
Kind of an odd angle on mine so not sure if that is normal or ???????
That said it was not hard to see what it needed and square off the bottom at roughly parallel to the barrel as well as opening it up left and right.
Or you could do something like this…
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all BP pistols and rifles should come with a high front site that can easily be filed to what POI you want
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