The Old and the New

[dave_person]

Hi,
Below are 4 English guns. The 2 on the right are 250 years old, the two on the left are my recent creations. I hope some of you are reminded of some of the color plates in Neal and Back's books on "Great British Gunmakers". Carrying on the traditions and history of those great guns.

dave

 

[Rifleman1776]

The beauty of all of them is mesmerizing. :bow:

 

[DOUBLEDEUCE 1]

Wow ! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[Micah Clark]

Wow ~~ Incredible !! Thanks for sharing the pics.

 

[rickystl]

Hi Dave.

WOW!!! is right. What a beautiful Quad of English fowlers. The English fowlers have to be some of the most wonderful looking long guns ever made. And your's look every bit up to snuff with the originals.
You are definately a master builder. :hatsoff:

These photos remind me of the brief discussion on this Forum a while back ref the one original with the all round tapered barrel. It's an attractive feature you don't see on most of them.

Which brings me to a question if you would: What is the difference (if any) in the LOP of your customs compared to the originals ? Just curious.

Thanks, Rick

 

[dave_person]

Hi Ricky,
The LOP on both originals is about 13 5/8" and drop at heel is about 2" for both. I could easily shoot them.

dave

 

[rickystl]

OK. Thanks Dave. That's similar to what they are today. I was just curious if the originals had a slightly shorter LOP to accommodate the generally smaller stature of the period.

Rick

 

[Artie Peltier]

Thanks for sharing. These firearsarms are works of art! Love the detail work on them. Thanks again Art

 

[Crewdawg445]

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Would you mind posting a few images more of the originals? Thanks Dave!

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
The first is a brass mounted gun, London made but maker unknown because the name is corroded off. It dates from the 1760s.

The second gun is by Joseph Heylin of London. It is silver mounted and hallmarked for 1767. It was converted to halfstock and percussion. It has a take-down stock and a Spanish barrel by Eudal Pous of Barcelona.

On that "other" muzzleloading gun making forum (the only other one that matters) I did a comprehensive photo and text essay on these two guns as part of a series on history, design, components, and building mid-18th century British fowling guns.

dave

 

[Crewdawg445]

Thank you! Stunning, absolutely beautiful to see such wonderful examples of history.

 

[jbwilliams3]

I would love to see more pictures of that rifle. I love English sporting rifles and I see so few of them, much less fantastic examples!

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
Here is a link to the thread discussing that English rifle. Be sure to click on "View Entire Thread" at the bottom. http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showpost.php?post/1596653/

dave