It is a single cut ******* file
This Poor Renegade had to come home with me
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After more examination of this barrel. I believe it has a bad spot in the breech area. My cotton flannel cleaning patches kept getting torn. But at first I thought it was me putting to much pressure when the patch got down near the patent breech. After much scrubbing, I dried the bore out and ran a clean lubed patch down, sure enough the bore is very rough before the breech. This rifle was loaded when I got it, so that might explain the rough patch. And it may shoot well like it is, but it won't have the opportunity. I just got off the phone with Mr. Hoyt and I'm going to send the barrel to him and he is gonna make a smooth bore out of it for me. He said we can go 56, 58, or 62. I plan to shoot ball, and shot out of it. So what would be the best caliber / gauge to punch it to? Considering all variables. It doesn't seem that components for any of them are too hard to get.
.615 is 20 gauge. I prefer lighter guns. Those would be my criteria in deciding.
ZastavaGuy
32 Cal
That's just awful. Awful but easily salvageable. I'd like to stumble across something similar.
I wanted to get the fitting done today so I can pack and ship the barrel to Mr. Hoyt to be reamed to a smooth bore. I got the extra 2 lbs of wood removed and everything fitting really good and sanded the stock to 150. More sanding tomorrow. Then I can start working on the metal parts. Removing the old bluing, etc. There is quite a bit of work I have to do to the hammer, it has a good bit of pitting all over it.
That was how the Hawken bros. made their patent breech plugs (T-C's version, anyway), referred to as the snail. No screw-in bolster, it was cast into the BP itself. When you clean it, use a brush for .357 to get into the patent breech.SUCCESS!! I got the nipple out! WHEW! That bolster is interesting the way it almost wraps around the dang nipple. I mean what were the engineers at T/C doing, passing the bong around, (insert talking while holding breath) " HEY MAAAN, you know we should make that bolster kinda like a pocket maaaan, so only our special T/C licensed nipple wrench can get in there maaaan"
Of course, I would appreciated ya'lll being here for the whole ride.
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Now a question for those who know! is the Renegade stock the same as that for the Pennsylvania Hunter? It sure looks like it. My PA Hunter came to me with lots of tacks and other stuff done to it. I have done my best to repair the damage but sometimes think it would be nice to get a different stock on Evil Bay for it.
~WH~
If you need, I just called The Gun Works (541-741-4118) and asked if they still have T-C percussion hammers. I was told that T-C parts have been flying out the door since S&W closed the company, but they still have 5 of the hammers for $26.75 each. Might save a lot of frustration!
Also, I have had very good results using Laurel mountain Forge (https://www.laurelmountainforge.com/barrel_brown.htm) browning solution for both browning barrels and bluing them. Instructions are on the web site.
~WH~
Thank you very much for that. I will give them a call.
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Second vote for The Gun Works.
longcruise
70 Cal.
I like the idea of a 62.
I do too but, I'm worried that's getting a little thin. But Mr. Hoyt said we could go all the way to 62 and I believe he would know better than I. I'm shipping the barrel out Monday.
yes it's a 56 I have no idea about shot but I have the Mn. territorial 100yd record for a sighted smooth bore with a score of 44 5 shots my load is .545 hand cast rb .015 -.018 wonder lubed pillow ticking over 70grains of 3f goex
I believe that the penn. hunter is the same as the black mountain magnum if its a octagon barrel if not its the same as the new englander both are a 15/16" rather then a 1" barrel
I just read an interesting post on a wood working forum. The fella says he fills the grain on woods like Black walnut by wet sanding the stock with straight BLO. Of course the drying time will be longer than products like the Birchwood Casey Filler. Anyone ever try this? I may try it.
The barrel went out this morning to be reamed to a 56 or 58 cal smooth bore. I went conservative rather than punching it all the way to a 20 gauge. That way if in the future something arises there is still enough barrel to make changes.
I also ordered a new hammer today from The Gun Works! I like that place I will for sure keep them in my contacts.
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Just be careful talking with the folks at the Gun Works as you could lose an ear.
Great folks ... full of info and ready to share it
Great folks ... full of info and ready to share it
Working on metal parts today. Like the rest of the rifle there was no prep work done on anything. So lots of pitting and some parting lines to remove on the trigger guard. I can not make up my mind what finish I want to put on the metal. I know I don't want to blue it. I'm having a hard time deciding between brown and like Super Blue or Jax Black rubbed back.
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I got carried away with the torch.
I'm just waiting on the barrel to get back from Mr. Hoyt. The rest of the gun is pretty much done. I decided to finish the metal with the rubbed back patina look. I'll post up some more pics soon.
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