Traditional M/L Guns from Afghanistan

[Rudyard]

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Unexpected Jezails at the Motts Military museum, near Columbus Ohio

Top gun looks more Moroccan nice mix at any rate ,
Regards Rudyard

 

[PhDBrewer]

Top gun looks more Moroccan nice mix at any rate ,

And it appears to be a snaphaunce!

 

[TobJohn]

The vast majority of what they had was ww2 stuff, including a Lahti L-39, which can be considered the great great great…. Great great etc…. Grandchild of the doppelhaken

 

[PhDBrewer]

the great great great…. Great great etc…. Grandchild

Never could figure out that generation thing...
Is 25 years considered a generation?
I think ours are more like 50...
My grandfather was born in 1867.
My mom was born in 1928. I just became a grandfather myself. Our family has long generations!

 

[TobJohn]

Never could figure out that generation thing...
Is 25 years considered a generation?
I think ours are more like 50...
My grandfather was born in 1867.
My mom was born in 1928. I just became a grandfather myself. Our family has long generations!

Congrats on becoming a grandfather!

President John Tyler has a living grandson, so there can be some looooooong generations

 

[rickystl]

Top gun looks more Moroccan nice mix at any rate ,
Regards Rudyard

And it appears to be a snaphaunce!

Merry Christmas ALL !!!!

The top gun is indeed a Moroccan snaphaunce musket. The butt stock style identifies this one as Taouzilt, coming from the Ras el Oued, in the high valley of the Sous.
The flintlock pistol below it I believe is Algerian.

Rick

 

[springfield art]

If you think the modern-day India made guns are quirky for whatever reason, try shooting of of these!!

 

[springfield art]

Sorry, can't answer any of those questions. Although I did pull a load from an original Albanian Tanchika musket and here is what I found:

The interesting thing was the black powder. It looked more like cake flour than the corn meal we are use to seeing.

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Accuracy and distance must have been horrendous; no wonder they carried huge knives and swords!

 

[Rudyard]

The vast majority of what they had was ww2 stuff, including a Lahti L-39, which can be considered the great great great…. Great great etc…. Grandchild of the doppelhaken

Doople hakken are they flint or percussion ? I confess I know close to zero about such guns of WW2 though I was born in it I do remember the ruins the German bombs caused us & they killed my Namesake went down on HMS Penelope in the med .Rudyard

Merry Christmas ALL !!!!

The top gun is indeed a Moroccan snaphaunce musket. The butt stock style identifies this one as Taouzilt, coming from the Ras el Oued, in the high valley of the Sous.
The flintlock pistol below it I believe is Algerian.

Rick

Dear Rick Pistol too' looked right' but cant recall them. I was up that valley not sure where we got too was a' tiki tour' with the old French Harbour Master at Agadir, only gun I saw was a boy with a' garden gun' 3 bore' affair that was 1965 I was trying to get a ship South but ddn't happen so went by land though Algeria to Gao in Mali Via Adrar & 5 days riding the top of a Camion/truck to reach Gao great memories . Tobjohn has an account from the draft of my still working on book .He;s brilliant at E gajets Ime a duffer but can write stuff ok I seem to remember Tiznit & Taroudant maybe a Tarfia in the mix( had a sleep since then). I liked Morrocco & Algeria ,liked the whole trip except when I got sick & the Malairia bit Most people good. Most officials less so unless you liked getting arrested for spying or some such bumph got deported from Ghana they wanted by air to Lagos & I wasnt about to pay the air fare & they wouldn't. So we settled on a 'Mammy Waggon' to Togo for 10 shillings and I hitched though to Nigeria on half of nothing as I didnt want to change the unhandy Traveller's checks to CFA Francs .I knew I wasnt well but the Peace Corps doctor in Lagos confirmed the Malaria. However I digress .Shades of " They look & they sigh & they say ".Tis the sands of far off Sahara' they have stolen his mind away "
Regards Rudyard

 

[rickystl]

Rudyard: Interesting story. Keep writing that book !!!

Rick

 

[Rudyard]

Rudyard: Interesting story. Keep writing that book !!!

Rick

Very kind of you Rick Tobjohn has the draft but more written since .That trip was my first major 20 year olds' OE' though Ide hitched round Europe before . The Following year I hitched & rode cheap busses from Olso to Ceylon ".But that Sahibs is another story ."
A chuckling Rudyard

 

[springfield art]

Doople hakken are they flint or percussion ? I confess I know close to zero about such guns of WW2 though I was born in it I do remember the ruins the German bombs caused us & they killed my Namesake went down on HMS Penelope in the med .Rudyard

Dear Rick Pistol too' looked right' but cant recall them. I was up that valley not sure where we got too was a' tiki tour' with the old French Harbour Master at Agadir, only gun I saw was a boy with a' garden gun' 3 bore' affair that was 1965 I was trying to get a ship South but ddn't happen so went by land though Algeria to Gao in Mali Via Adrar & 5 days riding the top of a Camion/truck to reach Gao great memories . Tobjohn has an account from the draft of my still working on book .He;s brilliant at E gajets Ime a duffer but can write stuff ok I seem to remember Tiznit & Taroudant maybe a Tarfia in the mix( had a sleep since then). I liked Morrocco & Algeria ,liked the whole trip except when I got sick & the Malairia bit Most people good. Most officials less so unless you liked getting arrested for spying or some such bumph got deported from Ghana they wanted by air to Lagos & I wasnt about to pay the air fare & they wouldn't. So we settled on a 'Mammy Waggon' to Togo for 10 shillings and I hitched though to Nigeria on half of nothing as I didnt want to change the unhandy Traveller's checks to CFA Francs .I knew I wasnt well but the Peace Corps doctor in Lagos confirmed the Malaria. However I digress .Shades of " They look & they sigh & they say ".Tis the sands of far off Sahara' they have stolen his mind away "
Regards Rudyard

I have a couple photos of a "gun souk" in Afghan from back in the 70's or 80's, pre-modern-terror era. Taken by a co-worker, I've never travelled like that!