Triple Seven seems to have solved my misfiring problem, but now what should I do with my Pyrodex?

[azmntman]

I like 777 better than pyrodex........Why the hate? Same thing, clean right and carry on.

 

[Va Hunter]

I don’t understand the hate for pyrodex. Back in the early ‘80’s when I bought my first ML, that was all I used. No misfires and could shoot 20-30 times without swabbing the bore. I tried real black and after a couple of shots I almost needed a hammer to seat the ball it was so dirty.

 

[Captndan]

Do you know anybomake their dy with a cannon? Nothing refuses to be lit by a fuse.

I venture to say that most cannon shooters make their own. Ready made is just to expensive and hard to get.

 

[Ohio Rusty]

I use duplex loads in my rifle and my pyrodex does just fine. I first drop a measured charge of BP, then On top of that is the same measured load of pyrodex. Shoots fine and makes my small stock of real BP last twice as long.
Ohio Rusty ><>

 

[nick_1]

North Folk, why do you hate T7?

 

[OldRust]

I have a couple of lbs of pyrodex that I would gladly give away. I wound up with it from an estate. I’m not ready to jump into the love/hate debate, I’m just fortunate to have always had a good supply of black powder and I really like black powder <G>. Also no interest in mailing or shipping it.

Thanks,
O.R.

 

[PastorB]

I have used Pyrodex almost exclusively for 45+ years in a large variety of muzzleloaders, both long guns and handguns. I have NEVER had a failure to fire, or even a hesitation, when the cap ignited. My one and only hang fire came using 777 in a rifle. Was shooting a 3 shot group from the bench, the first two shots were normal, the third had a full 3 second delay from the time the cap popped to the gun discharging. Kind of shook my confidence in 777, and now I only use my remaining 777 at the range, where I have had no further problems. My guns using Pyrodex have bores that look factory new after decades of use. In MY guns, Pyrodex is cleaner than Holy Black, including Swiss. I save real black powder for my flintlocks. For the record, I live in a high humidity area, with wild swings in temperatures. I have never understood the hatred for Pyrodex.

 

[Kansas Jake]

PastorB, me either. I prefer black most of the time but do shoot Pyrodex since I have some and occasionally find it real cheap at a garage sale etc.

 

[CaptainVane]

Hate T7? Why? Its all i use. Never ever has misfired, ever. Easy to clean.

 

[Grenadier1758]

Why do I not use Pyrodex?

I have to go back many years to the time when I was first starting out. I had my Navy Arms Reb revolver and Dupont powder was cheap. My 2F powder would foul and cleaning the arbor to keep the cylinder turning was a bit of a chore. The Crisco over the ball made everything a greasy mess. Then some of the gun magazines that had a black powder writer began discussing a new substitute black powder. You used the same measure and fouling was greatly reduced to the point that cleaning away that sooty fouling was no longer required. According to the interviews with Dan Pawlak, the developer of Pyrodex (long before the explosion) this was just a much needed improvement over black powder.

I did find some Pyrodex in the round containers. I bought both the RS and the P grade powders. Using the P grade powder, I immediately started getting hangfires. Sure, the fouling was r.educed, but there was no longer the near instantaneous firing I was getting with good old Dupont. That can has been capped, sealed and sits on a shelf in my gun safe to remind me of those hangfires.

A few years later, I was at a range with someone shooting his side by side. Every shot was a hang fire. Long story short, he was using Pyrodex. The hangfires were eliminated when he loaded with black powder.

Maybe the formula has improved. There are now the hot magnum caps and the improved nipples that deliver more flame to the flash channel. I know that there are many users of Pyrodex that find it acceptable and due to the present regulations that make availability of real black powder so impossible for many of us, I have recommended the use of Tripple 7 or Pyrodex especially someone starting out that only wants 1 pound of powder to start on the path of traditional muzzleloading.

For me, my experience is to avoid Pyrodex and since I am shooting flint lock firearms more and more, it's going to be black powder.

 

[SPQR70AD]

I have used Pyrodex almost exclusively for 45+ years in a large variety of muzzleloaders, both long guns and handguns. I have NEVER had a failure to fire, or even a hesitation, when the cap ignited. My one and only hang fire came using 777 in a rifle. Was shooting a 3 shot group from the bench, the first two shots were normal, the third had a full 3 second delay from the time the cap popped to the gun discharging. Kind of shook my confidence in 777, and now I only use my remaining 777 at the range, where I have had no further problems. My guns using Pyrodex have bores that look factory new after decades of use. In MY guns, Pyrodex is cleaner than Holy Black, including Swiss. I save real black powder for my flintlocks. For the record, I live in a high humidity area, with wild swings in temperatures. I have never understood the hatred for Pyrodex.

the guys that hate pyrodex might be right. I had a new pistol fired 4 full cylinders with pyrodex. cleaned it put it away. the next day all that was left were the wooden grips and a pile of rust.

 

[ibud38]

the guys that hate pyrodex might be right. I had a new pistol fired 4 full cylinders with pyrodex. cleaned it put it away. the next day all that was left were the wooden grips and a pile of rust.

Can I have the grips...?

 

[SPQR70AD]

Can I have the grips...?

LOL

 

[Garbear34]

I'd duplex it with triple seven as suggested.