TRS snaphaunce lock

[Bri in Chi]

I am in the process of finishing up a Rifle Shoppe snaphaunce lock (#624) Has anyone around here ever built or ordered one? I would love to see a picture of the internals. Especially the pan-cover pushrod arrangement. Any snaphaunce advice will be appreciated. It's a beautiful lock, so far. They will heat treat it, and I'm wondering how long that might take.

 

[Teleoceras]

Bri:

Well my Snaphuance lock mechanism was build by Albion Small Arms. I have a picture of the internals at my site at http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1945/Guns/Snaph.htm .

Hope this helps!

 

[Bri in Chi]

Thanks, T. I found those pictures a while ago, and they were quite helpful. The pushrod set-up is different. Can you close the pan cover when the lock is un-cocked? Or does the lock need to be cocked in order to close the cover?

Am I the only person around here to ever build a TRS snaphaunce?

 

[SquirrelsaurusR]

Am I the only person around here to ever build a TRS snaphaunce?

You're probably the only person to ever receive one. ::

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

But probably not the only person who ordered one.

 

[Bri in Chi]

LOL Rusty! I'll bet you're right.
Does anyone have any snaphaunce pistol pictures they would care to share?

 

[oldarmy]

Bri,
How lond did you wait for your lock from TRS? I have been waiting for months for a stock I ordered.
Sorry to change the thread

 

[Bri in Chi]

The snaphaunce lock took almost a year. The doglock came in a couple of weeks. Go figure... I wish they would be more forthcoming in their delivery time estimates. But they seem to be the only game in town :=)) So, I plan ahead and cut them some slack.

 

[LSU TIGER]

All I can say Bri, is they must like you!

 

[Light Dragoon]

I know that this is a long-dead thread here, but I wanted to report that I ACTUALLY RECEIVED a TRS BUILT SNAPHAUNCE LOCK!!!! Only took them two weeks to ship it, too! Amazing... but of course, I worked it fairly smart, I guess. Some time back I had emailed them and asked about their snaphaunce locks, and the fellow said that a number of them would be done in a few weeks, should I care to order one. Well, having been forewarned by many other folks, I hesitated and then just didn't get around to it. Then, while cruising EBay, I saw said Snaphaunce lock for sale, with a "Buy it Now" tag set at what TRS was asking in the catologue. Heck, no problem, they HAVE to ship it ASAP if it's listed as built and on EBAY!

So Shock and Amazement, here it is. Of course, the sale closed on Valentine's Day, and they shipped it Express yesterday... but hey, they got it to me! Amazing... (I sure hope there isn't anyone here who was still waiting for parts, though! That could get dicey...)

I have nothing but good things to say about the lock itself, as it's fully functional, smooth, and sparks like an SOB! Now to promote up a chunk of lumber for the stock... I already have a nice little 20-bore octagon-to-round barrel that's been waiting for just such an event.

Cheers!

Gordon

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

Which lock did you get--the pistol, carbine or musket version?

 

[wulf]

I just finished making a snaphaunce lock...I saw what TRS had for sale and got an idea what the inside and outsde looks like....so I made my own...from absolute scratch..have pictures of parts being cut out of bar stock.
I have always made my own locks till Siler..no need to make a flintscratcher after siler... :imo: I'd send you the picture you asked for but I don't know how,,dumb, huh? Another member will be posting pictures of locks from my miquelet and the pistol. He may also post pictures of the snaphaunce,,,I don't know yet...Yes mine can be primed without drawing back the cock and it will open automaticly when the lock is triggered. Hope this helps. I don't yet know where John will post my pictures...hope this helps Wulf

 

[Light Dragoon]

Which lock did you get--the pistol, carbine or musket version?

I got the Musket version... and it's BIG! I think it measures ten inches across, front to back. Quite a throw on it, so I doubt that it will win many matches... BUT it throws a shower of sparks, so I expect it will be pretty reliable! I has the spring arm attached to the tumbler that pushes the pan-cover open, but can be overridden too. Thus you can prime the pan, lower the cock, and then close the pan again. The thing I really like about the design is that you can carry the thing SAFE! If you have it cocked, then you can push the steel well out of the way, but if you want it loaded, but no springs under strain, you can just lower the cock and push the pan cover forward. MUCH better in that regard than a real flintlock.

At any rate, I expect I'll make a Carbine out of it even if the lock is a bit on the large size. Unless I come across a nice Musket barrel to slap against it in the near future, that is! Not sure if I'll attack a big plank of walnut I've had curing here for a few years, or get a blank from Track of the Wolf or someone like that. Depends on how good the walnut looks I guess, and whether or not I want to "waste" the wood on a mere carbine, LOL!

Wulf, sounds like you sir, are a serious craftsman! My friend Taylor Anderson told me that while trying to put together one of these TRS Snaphaunce locks he got frustrated and in half the time it took him to mess with the parts, just built one from scratch! And other than the springs, it doesn't look all that hard, either! (Well, springs have always been a bugaboo for me, at least). I'd for one love to see pictures of your latest creation. Thanks!

Cheers,

Gordon

 

[Teleoceras]

Light Dragoon:

Very cool! :RO:

So TRS sells on EBAY eh? :hmm:

You have gotten me thinking about Olga and I think that maybe I should call Leonard Day to see how far along the Snaphaunce Musket he is building for me is going.

Much luck with building your new Snaphaunce. :applause:

 

[Bri in Chi]

I am about to send my finished snaphaunce pistol lock to them for heat treating. I was told by them to wait until I got it installed in the stock and the mounting bolt holes were drilled and tapped before heat treat. Does this make any sense to you?
I think I'm going to build the pistol without that square trigger guard, which always looked like an afterthought to me. McCrory, in his video, said that he suspected that the pistol was originally made without a trigger guard, because it has the removable trigger pin and trigger - which wouldn't work with a guard. If you haven't seen his video, it's very good and available from Ray Riling Arms Books-- http://www.rayrilingarmsbooks.com
B.

 

[Light Dragoon]

Thanks Teloceras. I'm looking forward to shooting it!

Bri, actually I've seen nice copies of the pistols I think you're talking about, with the square guards and pinned triggers... very nifty design, I must say. You may be right about the guards being an afterthough, as some snaphaunce pistols certainly were made that way. But the pistols presented to the Czar by the Muscovy Company in 1615 look pretty much the same, complete with the square guards, so who knows. Nifty "safeties" on the left sides of the guns, too! (In fact the 1632 Cavalry Drill says approximately to "remove the catch with your right thumb"... something that you could only do with one of these styles!)

I can see why TRS would want you to drill and tap the lock prior to hardening! But it's odd that they would feel the need to actually harden the lockplate... maybe that just shows my ignorance, but I didn't think it was necessary. Hopefully someone will chime in on that subject.

And speaking of Leonard Day, although it isn't EXACTLY a "pre-Flintlock" it sure as heck is a 17th Century version, so I think is applicable here... a VERY cool "Swivel Barrel" pistol. I tried to get it a few months ago, but I just wasn't willing to go to quite the price they need on the auction... still, darned tempting!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=29435082

Cheers!

Gordon

 

Since he brought it up, I'll post the pics here too.

Wulf, if you have more you need hosted/posted, e-mail 'em on.

John

 

And here's Wulf's Snaphaunce lock:

 

[Light Dragoon]

Well, Wulf, I'M sure impressed! :: Lord Almighty! Nice looking locks you threw together there! Good deal, glad to see them. Thank you Static for posting those. :applause:

 

[bovey]

Wulf,
Would it be possible to see some more pictures of your lock. Would like to see the internals and how the pan cover functions.