Two newbie questions re: "sporterized" hawkens

[tamara]

Question one: what the heck does "sporterized" mean anyway? As in Cabela's Sporterized Hawken rifle.

Question two: I've read on here that you do not shoulder a Hawken like you would a modern rifle, but because of the curved buttplate, you mount it more on your arm than your shoulder. Is that right? Could anyone kindly post a pic of the correct way to shoulder a Hawken?

Thanks.

 

[Doc Arroyo]

Never seen the term sporterized with a muzzleloader! :hmm:

My father built a bunch of sporterized Mausers and Springfields after WWII. Cut down and reshape the military stock, swap triggers, mill off the sights. Then shorten, taper, and recrown the barrel.

The 2 that I get the biggest kick out of are the Springfield that has a gear attachment so that he could operate it left handed, and the SKS that he wanted to de-militerize and sporterize. He didn't get to finish that one...guess I should take ovet the project! :v

 

[tamara]

Ahh, I think I just realized the answer to my first question. Cabela's "sporterized" hawken has a "modern" flat buttplate with a rubber pad and adjustable rear sights, etc. bleh, don't like that.

 

[silverfox]

I think you did answer your question. It may have some modern checkering on it also.
Fox :thumbsup:

 

[Rebel]

And checkering on the stock and chrome lined barrels.

 

[tamara]

Thanks for the responses guys... now how bout the second question? :grin:

 

[Rebel]

I can't post a pic of the correct way, but the buttplate does go more on the upper arm than in the shoulder like you would with a standard straight butt. Kinda just above the biceps.

 

[Dave Rosenthal]

tamara,

You mount the rifle with the butt in your armpit and your cheek on the stock. If you can look down the barrel and line-up the sights without having to move your head, you're doing just fine and most importantly, the rifle fits your body.

Friends of mine have ultra-customized shotguns in fancy cases with fully adjustable combs and stocks. They invest tens of thousands of dollars in these adjustable stock guns...so they can put the gun up and be looking right down the barrel without having to adjust their head in some kind of uncomfortable way. They wouldn't be spending the money if they thought it didn't work.

Sometimes for the sake of originality, we compromise on "gun fit". The best shooting guns I have are the ones that fit me best :winking: . They may not be the fanciest or the prettiest but man can they shoot! I tried putting a $800.00 rifle up to my shoulder and it hurt! Then I bought a $300.00 rifle that fit me the first time I shouldered it. Bought lots of extra stuff to go with it and still came home with money left over.

Been shooting for 30+ years in all kinds of diciplines, rifles, shotguns, pistols, revolvers, BP, military, etc. Wouldn't give you a bum steer.

If you buy a pretty rifle and it don't fit ya, you can always sell it and get beat-up on the transaction :shocked2: .

Just my more that 2 cent's worth, Dave

 

[JCW]

I have a Cabelas "sporterized" Hawken purchased about ten years ago. In comparison to the standard Cabelas hawken there is no brass furniture and no patch box. It has a regular rubber recoil pad. Barrel appears to be chrome lined. There are attachment points for a modern rifle sling. The rifling is shallower than in my Renegade. The rifle is made by Investarms and looks to be the same basic rifle as the Lyman trade rifle except for the double triggers.