Uberti 1860 Army front sight

[Pete453]

I've used the sights @Tom A Hawk linked, they cured a Pietta and an Uberti for me, spot on

 

[smoothshooter]

You could also file the rear hammer sight down to lower the POA.

Not much to file down on the hammer notch.
Build up, shape, and paint front sight with metal set epoxy.
Works great.

 

[Smokerr]

If you file down the center of the hammer, then to maintain a sight picture, you have to file down the area on each side.

Or adjust to a lower sight picture with the front sight part down in the hammer notch which is a guess vs setting the front sight even with the hammer wings.

Mike or D Yager did what I did, open up the sight notch left and right for a better view. Then put in a taller front sight.

 

[JimCunn]

"Mike or D Yager did what I did, open up the sight notch left and right for a better view. Then put in a taller front sight"

Me too.

 

[M. De Land]

"Mike or D Yager did what I did, open up the sight notch left and right for a better view. Then put in a taller front sight"

Me too.

You will have a better overall sight set up if you cut a dovetail , mill out a patridge style sight blade and have some windage adjustment once you get the elevation figured out. You can cut a dovetail right through the original mortise and cover it with the base of the new sight.

 

[M. De Land]

You will have a better overall sight set up if you cut a dovetail , mill out a patridge style sight blade and have some windage adjustment once you get the elevation figured out. You can cut a dovetail right through the original mortise and cover it with the base of the new sight.

Here's another idea I used on a Trapdoor rifle that would work just as well on a pistol for some windage adjustment , I milled the brass sight body off set .050 and it moves the blade laterally while setting in the centered sight mortise. I lathe turned and milled the front banded lug integral on this new Douglas barrel after threading, qualifying ,chambering and crowning it.
Getting the barrel taper turned from the octagon blank was a real job as I had to mate the tapers in the middle so the new barrel would fit the original stock inletting. I still need to rust blue the gun but she shoots like a house afire.
The cool part of this method is the sight blade appears centered but is actually offset .050 for windage adjustment and remains perpendicular. It can be offset either direction any amount up to the width of the mortise slot for a good bit of windage adjustment and with the use of some shims even more.
The other advantage is the sight blade is cross pinned in place not staked or soldered,

 

[JimCunn]

"You can cut a dovetail right through the original mortise and cover it with the base of the new sight".

You can, but it's a lot of extra effort with no particular benefit. Using the original barrel slot works OK and is quicker.

 

[D Yager]

Most guys don't have a milling machine or a lathe. Agree with JimCunn about using the original slot. I also do the occasional barrel shortening job and hand cut the slot and reuse the original blade if possible. If some one really wants a dovetail cut I use a mill to rough in the slot and hand finish it.

 

[M. De Land]

Most guys don't have a milling machine or a lathe. Agree with JimCunn about using the original slot. I also do the occasional barrel shortening job and hand cut the slot and reuse the original blade if possible. If some one really wants a dovetail cut I use a mill to rough in the slot and hand finish it.

Every thing suggested is completely able to be accomplished with hand tools all the lathe and mill do is make it faster and easier.

Most guys don't have a milling machine or a lathe. Agree with JimCunn about using the original slot. I also do the occasional barrel shortening job and hand cut the slot and reuse the original blade if possible. If some one really wants a dovetail cut I use a mill to rough in the slot and hand finish it.

"You can cut a dovetail right through the original mortise and cover it with the base of the new sight".

You can, but it's a lot of extra effort with no particular benefit. Using the original barrel slot works OK and is quicker.

Vertical windage adjustment is a huge benefit for aimed fire on any fire arm and your only fooling yourself to believe otherwise !

 

[D Yager]

Vertical windage adjustment is a huge benefit for aimed fire on any fire arm and your only fooling yourself to believe otherwise !
Vertical windage?? Thought windage meant left and right adjustment. But HWWBTC has spoken. The point here is not everyone has machinery to do this kind of work.

 

[M. De Land]

Vertical windage adjustment is a huge benefit for aimed fire on any fire arm and your only fooling yourself to believe otherwise !
Vertical windage?? Thought windage meant left and right adjustment. But HWWBTC has spoken. The point here is not everyone has machinery to do this kind of work.

No the point is better sight function which can be accomplished with nothing but hand tool use. Every aspect of the suggestions made can be accomplished with precision by hand files , drift punch, hammer and and graver. And yes vertical as in square/ perpendicular sight alignment is key to any decent front sight installation. Other wise your sight picture is always subject to cross axis sight dysfunction which is critical to precision aimed fire.
Some shooters are able to take advantage of this precision and others not so much but the function potential should be present on all fire arms of quality.

 

[Smokerr]

Vertical windage??

Usually referred to as blowing hot air.

 

[M. De Land]

Usually referred to as blowing hot air.

And stupid .............. make that ignorance is forever in folks who refuse to learn !

 

[D Yager]

Again you

No the point is better sight function which can be accomplished with nothing but hand tool use. Every aspect of the suggestions made can be accomplished with precision by hand files , drift punch, hammer and and graver. And yes vertical as in square/ perpendicular sight alignment is key to any decent front sight installation. Other wise your sight picture is always subject to cross axis sight dysfunction which is critical to precision aimed fire.
Some shooters are able to take advantage of this precision and others not so much but the function potential should be present on all fire arms of quality.

Again you are making statements that make sense only to you. One always tries to keep the sights square, that's only common sense. My point was about using hand tools in place of machinery. Why do you insist on over complicating things? Did you work for the government? You sure have knack for taking something simple and complicating the crap out of it.

 

[M. De Land]

Again you

Again you are making statements that make sense only to you. One always tries to keep the sights square, that's only common sense. My point was about using hand tools in place of machinery. Why do you insist on over complicating things? Did you work for the government? You sure have knack for taking something simple and complicating the crap out of it.

I was taught with hand tools and gravitated over time and training into machine tool use and hence have more flexibility and choices of what produces the best and fastest result. I still cut the final .010 when chamber reaming or fitting threads by hand with precision gauges. It takes two or three times as long to fix a screw up as it does to do it right the first time and I speak from experience ! The truth is though I learn far more from a screw up that has to be corrected than I ever do from the same work that turned out right every time. You tend to remember pain and success doesn't leave nearly as strong an impression as it becomes taken for granted.
Actually my most trouble happens when not being satisfied with good work, trying for perfection and things start south ! One of the most important lessons is learning when it is as good as it's going to get.

 

[Smokerr]

And stupid .............. make that ignorance is forever in folks who refuse to learn !

Lo many years ago, a feller told me that. I thanked him and asked him if he was done complimenting me if that was all he had.

You see, to be bothered by someones negative comments you have to respect them.

 

[JimCunn]

"Vertical windage adjustment is a huge benefit for aimed fire on any fire arm and your only fooling yourself to believe otherwise !"

I'll take your word for it. I've only been shooting for about 75 years and working on the little suckers for about 70, so am still a novice. Give me another 75, and I may come up to speed.

Re the vertical windage terminology, I spend most of my time working on the flapping flight mechanics of articulated tension battened viscoelastic membrane wings, and I still learn something new about air every day. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[45D]

And stupid .............. make that ignorance is forever in folks who refuse to learn !

Wow!!!
Ignorance is not having the "opportunity" to learn.
Stupid is not having the "ability" to learn . . .
Mighty big words sir !!!

 

[D Yager]

HWWBTC is good at using mighty big words to say nothing

 

[Smokerr]

More hot air than Kilauea!