Uberti 1860 strange screw location

[user 33697]

Hi guys,

I received my new Uberti 1860 Army today and commenced disassembling it to degreasing the factory lubricant, re-lubing and assemble. I noticed two screws on either side of the frame that I cannot tell if they serve any function on the revolver other than to plug two holes. Both are fillister head screws. Being right handed, the screw on the right side of the frame brush uncomfortably against my trigger finger when gripping the revolver. Has anyone encountered this same problem with the Uberti 1860? Is there a fix or do I have to just live with the screws as they are on the frame? Please see the photo below. Comments would be appreciated.

 

[Tom A Hawk]

That would appear to be a "Cut For Shoulder Stock" configuration. There will also be a notch cut in the bottom of the grip frame meant to engage the tension hook. The raised screw heads mate with a recess in the shoulder stock frame.

 

[Grenadier1758]

Its a locating screw for the mounting a shoulder stock. There's a lot of threads on the forum discussing the shoulder stocks.

@Tom A Hawk , you were quick with the answer and a picture to boot.

 

[sourdough]

You have an 1860 Army .44 that is a 4-screw frame with CFS (cut for shoulder stock on the recoil shields) revolver. Yes, it is uncomfortable on the trigger finger. You can just remove those "4th screws" and even replace them with short set screws to fill the holes.

Or, you can obtain a shoulder stock and shoot it as it was designed. Mine:



Regards,

Jim

 

[sourdough]

Assembled.

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

The purpose of the shoulder stock is to provide greater stability and in theory this can increase the ability to hit a target at longer ranger.

 

[Dashing Leper]

Have one myself, and I kind of regret not ordering the 1860 'Civilian' Model instead. Same gun, except without those screws and has a brass backstrap.

 

[Whitworth]

I had a couple of 1860s with those prominent screws, Uberti and Pietta both. Then found a sweet Armi San Paolo 1860 and those screwheads are very thin and easy on the trigger finger.

 

[user 33697]

Thanks everyone for explaining the two screws on my Uberti 1860.

 

[Tom A Hawk]

Thankfully, I don't mind these screw heads on my gun. But if I did, I think I would replace them with an appropriate slotted set screw that would install flush with the frame. Simply removing the screws leaves the inner components exposed to dirt and crud.

 

[user 33697]

Thankfully, I don't mind these screw heads on my gun. But if I did, I think I would replace them with an appropriate slotted set screw that would install flush with the frame. Simply removing the screws leaves the inner components exposed to dirt and crud.

Tom,
The set screw replacement sounds like an excellent idea. By chance, would you know the gunsmith screw thread size that Uberti uses for the two screws mentioned in my thread? Most likely it's metric from Uberti being in Italy, but possibly could be SAE gunsmithing thread size.

 

[SDSmlf]

You have the screws, measure them. Or take them to a hardware store and use their thread sizing board. I know places like Lowe’s has them.

 

[sourdough]

Just make sure those set screws are short so as not to interfere with the internal parts (hand, bolt, trigger, hammer).

Jim

 

[Bad Karma]

I use the screw holes as ports for applying white lithium grease to the action parts. Replace them and fouling really struggles to make it into the works.

 

[F.G. Ford]

Before buying a shoulder stock, try shooting your 1860 one foot from your nose and enjoy the blast of grease, powder, & caps.
Impressive to say the least! I do have difficulty seeing the better shooting capability knowing that feature is about to happen.
I know this from experience, and would rather pass.
Fred

 

[Tom A Hawk]

The actual length of pull is about 18" which places the pistol just about the same distance from my face when firing with a two handed grip.

 

[Whitworth]

Wonder if those irritating screws were the reason Bill Hickok was an 1851 Navy user.

 

[SDSmlf]

Wonder if those irritating screws were the reason Bill Hickok was an 1851 Navy user.

1860 civilian model did not have stock screws.

 

[Capnball]

You have an 1860 Army .44 that is a 4-screw frame with CFS (cut for shoulder stock on the recoil shields) revolver. Yes, it is uncomfortable on the trigger finger. You can just remove those "4th screws" and even replace them with short set screws to fill the holes.

Or, you can obtain a shoulder stock and shoot it as it was designed. Mine:



Regards,

Jim

Really nicely done boxed set. Love that stuff.

 

[Whitworth]

1860 civilian model did not have stock screws.

He may have made his choice based on being issued an 1860 during the Civil War. I would imagine a lot of US purchased Colt Army models wound up in civilian hands by 1876 when Hickok was still using the 1851 Navy. More history speculation.....