UPS has outdone itself. I'm actually impressed by how massive of a failure this is, even Kiblers famous crates are no match! INSURE YOUR STUFF FOLKS!

[RobertIN]

Was that shipping crate modified in any way? Was the crate extended?

Here it is prior to shipping. Either the lighting or moisture makes it look like it's separate parts on the side, but it's all one piece.

 

[Mulebrain]

Wow!

 

[GriscomRun]

Most of us have seen the "inexpensive" hard plastic, foam lined cases for modern type guns. What surprises me is that no one has come out with a simple, hard plastic, telescoping container that would allow different longer lengths to be shipped. The container could be re-used almost indefinitely.

On the idea of a telescoping shipping box : I have seen them in heavy cardboard when purchasing boxes for shipping modern things.

CAMERON SHIPPING BOXES. Good variety of boxes to choose from cardboard to foam lined , worth a check.
However, they would need hardwood framing to withstand the abuse by those intending harm.

 

[Brazos John]

I bought a long brass range rod from October Country.
It was shipped in a pvc pipe, and was totally straight and undamaged.
I concur with the opinions of others regarding pvc pipe.
It works.

 

[deerstalkert]

I love the idea of PVC pipe but the drop on everything i have would require a 10" id tube.
I am going to experiment today with using a 10 inch pipe and flattening it. one could use wood to cap it. just sucks we have to try to gorilla proof our shipments. I am so reticent to ship something i have put months of time into that i won't sell except face to face.
I have one build that needs to get to Ohio somehow. maybe a Road trip.

 

[BS2366]

I'm glad the UPS drivers in my area are top notch! It's USPS and fedex that I have problems with.

 

[rickystl]

I had a long bow shipped to me and the fellow I bought it from packed it in a 3" PVC tube with lots of packing.

That's what I ship barrels in. Usually 1.5"-2".

 

[rickystl]

@James Kibler I'm curious, have you ever seen anything like this? I've never seen anything like it. Your boxes are top notch.

Probably backed into with a fork-lift at the distribution center.

 

[rickystl]

I'm glad the UPS drivers in my area are top notch! It's USPS and fedex that I have problems with.

In my 30+ years in the manufacturing industry, it's not usually the drivers or your local branch post office. The majority of the damages occur at the local distribution points. Common carrier freight is the same.

 

[rickystl]

I love the idea of PVC pipe but the drop on everything i have would require a 10" id tube.
I am going to experiment today with using a 10 inch pipe and flattening it. one could use wood to cap it. just sucks we have to try to gorilla proof our shipments. I am so reticent to ship something i have put months of time into that i won't sell except face to face.
I have one build that needs to get to Ohio somehow. maybe a Road trip.
View attachment 352255

That's the problem. Imagine the shipping weight of a 10"X72" schedule-40 PVC Pipe. LOL And shippers hate "round" tube items anyway.

 

[BS2366]

In my 30+ years in the manufacturing industry, it's not usually the drivers or your local branch post office. The majority of the damages occur at the local distribution points. Common carrier freight is the same.

Well then my local UPS is too notch. Never had a single issue with a UPS delivery. Had many issues with USPS and a few with FedEx delivering to the wrong house. FedEx and the mail lady haul balls on our private gravel drive. We have 20mph signs but they don't care. My driveway wraps around our house and FedEx thinks they have to drive their huge trucks around their. The mail lady think she needs to squeeze between our vehicles when she drives down there and she does not like to get out of her car. She left some items laying on the side of the road in the rain at the mail box one time. She stuffed my barrel from B. Hoyt in the mail box and rubber banded the door to the red flag. Complains to me everytime she has to drive to our house to make a delivery. The UPS location lady is very nice. The PO in two neighboring towns are not very professional or friendly. One local PO is pretty nice, but they aren't the ones that deliver my mail.

 

[rickystl]

On the idea of a telescoping shipping box : I have seen them in heavy cardboard when purchasing boxes for shipping modern things.

CAMERON SHIPPING BOXES. Good variety of boxes to choose from cardboard to foam lined , worth a check.
However, they would need hardwood framing to withstand the abuse by those intending harm.

Yes, Cameron has a good selection at reasonable prices. The problem is the "shipping" cost adds a bunch if you want to order say 5 double-wall long boxes. Shipping can cost more than the boxes.
Fortunately for me, I can still buy the boxes from my last employer that I retired from. They were used to ship small hydrants. By coincidence, they work perfectly for shipping muzzle loaders. I get them very cheap since they purchase them locally by the truck load. Double-wall, telescoping to over 72" if needed. The double wall becomes a quad-wall in the center where the two boxes meet. Then I pack the rifle with used mattress foam.

 

[1861colt]

I think the box was pre-cut before obliteration. It's too perfect a break. You could say the rifle went through the Revolutionary Way and it played Whack-a-Mole with a few redcoats before meeting it's demise.
Long ago I used to ship my rifles USPS wrapped up in corrugated wrap roll cardboard so it was 3" thick all over, which at the time was USPS approved. It worked out just fine, but these days it would be a red letter target for Mike Tyson's punching bag. I did have a 3" thick x 5' tiger maple plank mysteriously disappear on it's way to me through USPS once. I didn't insure it. Wouldn't think you'd have too. Got a sucker's gold star that day.

 

[RobertIN]

I think the box was pre-cut before obliteration. It's too perfect a break. You could say the rifle went through the Revolutionary Way and it played Whack-a-Mole with a few redcoats before meeting it's demise.
Long ago I used to ship my rifles USPS wrapped up in corrugated wrap roll cardboard so it was 3" thick all over, which at the time was USPS approved. It worked out just fine, but these days it would be a red letter target for Mike Tyson's punching bag. I did have a 3" thick x 5' tiger maple plank mysteriously disappear on it's way to me through USPS once. I didn't insure it. Wouldn't think you'd have too. Got a sucker's gold star that day.

The clean break has me baffled as well, on the left side of the box you can see a little bit of splintering but I have no idea how it broke clean all the way across.

 

[Harry Marinakis]

I hate UPS.

UPS started to refuse to drive up my gravel county road.
But they didn't tell me this.

Their delivery always records showed the packages were "left on front porch" but there were never any deliveries. We have people at home 24/7 and property alarms. No one drove up our road, let alone drove up our long driveway.

I filed insurance claims. Then one day I found the packages. UPS was leaving the packages ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD down at the intersection of the paved road and our gravel road.

ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD!!!
Liars and lazy bastages!!

 

[ChuckJonesWagon]

The recipient has been so gracious to me, I'm so thankful he is a kind and understanding man. Of course he will be fully refunded.

I will never get back the 50~ hours (I'm slow deal with it) of passion and effort I put into this kit, I'm just hoping for a quick and painless resolution with the insurance claim.

Post your outcome with insurance. I know several years ago when the USPS was "really bad" my wife had an order come for a clay vase. It came in the box.....and in pieces.

We filed a claim with the USPS insurance and it just got lost in the vortex. We contacted them so many times it was silly. We finally gave up. Now, it wasn't the dollar value that you have.....but still......

 

[RobertIN]

Post your outcome with insurance. I know several years ago when the USPS was "really bad" my wife had an order come for a clay vase. It came in the box.....and in pieces.

We filed a claim with the USPS insurance and it just got lost in the vortex. We contacted them so many times it was silly. We finally gave up. Now, it wasn't the dollar value that you have.....but still......

I certainly will. I ship using PirateShip, and the insurance is through them not UPS so we'll see how it goes. Most of the bad reviews I've seen are of people getting rejected because of poor number of shipment to claim ratios, and there seem to be some good ones too so for individual consumers so... Still kind of hopeful but preparing myself for bad news just in case.

 

[RobertIN]

I hate UPS.

UPS started to refuse to drive up my gravel county road.
But they didn't tell me this.

Their delivery always records showed the packages were "left on front porch" but there were never any deliveries. We have people at home 24/7 and property alarms. No one drove up our road, let alone drove up our long driveway.

I filed insurance claims. Then one day I found the packages. UPS was leaving the packages ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD down at the intersection of the paved road and our gravel road.

ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD!!!
Liars and lazy bastages!!

We get that a lot too. Our driveway is narrow and on a slope going over a creek and many don't want to take it in a large truck so they just leave them on the side of the road rain or shine. It's pretty annoying.

 

[David Austin]

the next timeyou insure one...find the most expensive auctioned off...and insure it for that...say 65K?

 

[GriscomRun]

I don’t even know how it’s possible for someone could break it like that. It took a lot of force to accomplish such.

Looks like someone used a power saw to cut it. Hard to imagine such a clean break done by accident , equipment failure , or operator error.