UPS has outdone itself. I'm actually impressed by how massive of a failure this is, even Kiblers famous crates are no match! INSURE YOUR STUFF FOLKS!

[BS2366]

I'm wondering if they though it was a rifle, not ML, and wanted to see it for themselves.

 

[RobertIN]

I'm wondering if they though it was a rifle, not ML, and wanted to see it for themselves.

Possibly. It was sent to an FFL (New York is dumb), maybe they thought they'd check if they could get a sweet unmentionable and thought the ML was useless for their nefarious plans.

 

[BS2366]

Possibly. It was sent to an FFL (New York is dumb), maybe they thought they'd check if they could get a sweet unmentionable and thought the ML was useless for their nefarious plans.

I bet you're right!

 

[brushblind]

Never ups.

It would be great if there was a shipping co. just for firearms etc. that guaranteed damage free delivery. Maybe it would be a great new business for someone if they could get past all the red tape.

 

[springfield art]

Good grief. I'm a retired game warden. I once sent a Browning (new model) BAR off to a lab, and the analyst called and said he wasn't sure the rifle was safe to fire.

"Why not?"

"Because of the broken stock."

It was in like-new condition when I UPS'd it, and the only way it was broken was if someone put it on two boxes and jumped on it. I'm still ******.

Ouch!

 

[Moonshine Joe]

Re telescoping case, try one of the Kolpin ATV rifle scabbard. My 1803 fits into one.

 

[oreclan]

Was going to say the same thing. It . I have seen some very expensive and rare guns broken in half shipping.
It happens more than you think. Insurance is good but it doesn't replace the some things.

Once a UPS clerk would not ship a rifle because she asked if it was unique or one of a kind. I had to convince her that it was a replica and could be replaced.

 

[RobertIN]

Got it back today. This has to be unrepairable, I have to call Jim tomorrow and explain the situation then email these to him so I have his opinion in writing that it cannot be fixed for the insurance company. I'm not entirely sure the barrel is still straight after taking that kind of hit but I can't really put a straight edge on a swamped barrel to prove it one way or another.

What a shame, such a beautiful piece of wood... HOWEVER, POSITIVE NOTE! The close up photo of the break is an excellent visual aid for those who wonder how curly maple gets it's curls.

 

[RobertIN]

Did they pee on it as well........wet and broken is going all out.

Maybe I'll give it a wee little smell test

 

[RobertIN]

I guess that delivery guy really hates guns. Best of luck with the insurance claims.

Thanks, at this point I don't think it could be denied that it was destroyed by them, then again those companies aren't in business to pay claims.

 

[RB POWELL]

Unbelievable.
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[trackpin]

Ups sucks. I was into antique outboards and had one delivered to me. I watched the driver open the back doors of the truck and get in and get the package. He dropped it on its end onto my driveway then jumped down and brought it to my door. I made him wait while I opened it. When he dropped it the starter was pushed into the flywheel and it was junk. I was refunded my money by the seller. Next one was an old Evinrude zephyr. Power head completely busted off. That one I stripped the good parts off of before they came to get it after the seller filed the claim. They really dont care about how they handle anything yet charge stupid high prices to ship.

 

[ETipp]

Kibler's pacifically says they won't ensure UPS.

In my experience, UPS is a garbage company. The Postal Office is much better. FedEx about the same as UPS, no good.

In this neck of the woods, UPS has proven to be better than USPS. FedEx is a nightmare, the absolute worst.

The main problem with USPS here are the pathetic delivery personnel, as in contract workers. I have personally been on the receiving end of their apathy.

One day I had a $900.00 compound bow shipped UPS. When the delivery driver handed me the box, it was plain to see that a fork from a forklift had went straight through the center if the box. I had the driver open the box on the spot. Fortunately for me, the fork went between the strings and the riser. No damage.

 

[GANGGREEN]

Good grief. I'm a retired game warden. I once sent a Browning (new model) BAR off to a lab, and the analyst called and said he wasn't sure the rifle was safe to fire.

"Why not?"

"Because of the broken stock."

It was in like-new condition when I UPS'd it, and the only way it was broken was if someone put it on two boxes and jumped on it. I'm still ******.

I'm also a retired game warden, but I always hand delivered any rifle/shotgun that needed to go to the lab because I've never trusted USPS or UPS. *******s......

 

[Sagebrush]

but I always hand delivered any rifle/shotgun that needed to go to the lab

I had that rifle tested in Ashland and it's a fer piece from the middle of Idaho.

 

[RobertIN]

Final update:

Insurance claim was approved! The team at Kibler were instrumental in helping me get it done, they took the time to write up an official letter detailing why it was unrepairable. The insurance company was provided that letter for their records and it finally went through.

Thanks @James Kibler for all of your help.

 

[nhmoose]

That's the problem. Imagine the shipping weight of a 10"X72" schedule-40 PVC Pipe. LOL And shippers hate "round" tube items anyway.

You put it in a cardboard box, so you do not pay for odd shape. even the wood crate gets covered in cardboard with paper taped corners.

 

[Greg Y]

I live in a small community of 600ish people. My ups guy is awesome. He tells me about all the little niche suppliers that he delivers from.

He knows exactly what is delivered to me and will call me if I have a high value item and work out where to leave it.

My local post office is nearly as awesome. We go through personnel more than ups....but I have not had a bad one in my 10 years here.